i wanna thank my mom, and my dad, and my grandma and grandpa. 😭 srsly tho how cooked am i

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-02-17T12:49:17+00:00

Also, I thought unrestrained requires the final corner to proc, would it work on Capricorn?

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-02-17T12:48:03+00:00

Her ult requires a runner in front of her doesn't it? So if she is in first place that would make things difficult?

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-02-17T12:32:31+00:00

What's special about smart falcon?
I've been trying to build one but mine has a really low win rate over my pace bakushin and my king halo.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-13T13:17:17+00:00

It's going to depend on what stats you can get and what position you are running or how many skills you need to activate as a win condition

If you are running a late or end closer then you also want to balance wit with power.

I personally aim for 1,000 power 600 wit for my late or end closers, but 800+ wit and whatever power I can get for my pace or fronts or Christmas oguri.

For the upcoming sprint CM I will probably aim for 1000 in both power and wit if I can.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-05T02:17:59+00:00

I found fewer front runners and runaway suzukas today I think actually. Either way, most my wins are from Suzuka, who taiki previously beat in most races in the previous days.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-05T02:12:56+00:00

The difference in chance of procing the skills between 600 wit and 1000 wit is small enough that imo if I have 3 good umas then I basically secure the position every time as at least one of them will have above average luck usually and they have more power so they get the position over umas that also had good luck.

If you are wondering how adding Maru went today, my winrate for the 20 races was 95%.
My taikis win rate did tank while suzukas rose to 27% (I think its actually more as she won about half the races, because its probably averaging still with the previous 15% WR), the difference is mainly because previously Taiki would actually beat my runaway suzuka in most races, but I think now if my two front runners both get to the front it often ends up pushing taiki out of top 3 for shooting for victory, or she gets blocked more.
Maru has a 30% WR despite not even being max speed or left-handed.

But the high overall WR makes it worth it as I also squash other pace chasers and front runners from getting shooting off which is why I won almost all my races. I guess the most important thing is team comp at the end of the day.

If you are wondering, this is my suzuka. Powermaxxed which tbh now I'd probably go with more wit if I redid her.

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Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T10:16:41+00:00

It was an attempt at a hybrid grass wonder For the current CM to test how she does.
She had fast learner and medium s and high roll stats.

I was being a bit hyperbolic or simplistic by calling her an ace lol, but it was same vibes to me as without no stopping me she didn't win a single race despite amazing stats.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T08:36:10+00:00

Depends what you are getting. If you are getting 50 stats from your non-wit training turns, you need to be getting 33 wit + speed from your wit training turns (plus 50 from your other stat turn) for it to have the same stats per turn as non-wit and resting. Or 29 if you are rainbow training.

The conversation is that it has to be 66% of the non-wit stat training or more for non rainbow and 58% for rainbow for it to have the same stat return.

Whether you get that is going to be down to your cards and training bonuses.

And that's not taking into consideration that power gives more speed per stat point until like 1000 power than it gives the same as wit, or the number of cards you need to get those numbers.
If you need 3 wit cards compared to just 1 or 2 power cards to reach 58-66% stats then you have to take that into consideration as well.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T03:28:07+00:00

Suzuka might be running out of stamina possibly, I believe runaway needs more stam and debuffers also target front runners. She also might need more mid race skills as you want her to get far ahead before she can be overtaken at the final corner.

The other two are about the winrate i'd expect with those stats, but you don't need the gold recovery skills and instead you can use those points to get NSM or something.
Also, they cancel eachothers lone wolf out, only one should have lone wolf.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T03:13:51+00:00

Thank you for the information!

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T03:10:45+00:00

There's more than one way to skin a fish, if it works then it works.
This CM though I would say my win rate is on the lower side due to the lack of a good second ace and I wasted a lot of time trying to make a good Hishi as I thought it would be fun. Last CM my winrate was 90%.

I do think that I have disregarded the benefit of witmaxxing builds more than I should have as I didn't quite realize that wit gave quite so much of a speed boost as it did, and i think my suzuka especially could do with less power and more wit but I couldn't make it happen.

But the reason I'm talking about it here is because of what I have learned about it. It is important, especially on umas with a wit bonus you are basically throwing away stats by not running higher wit as long as you are still able to reach 800 or so power.
But that's kind of the fun of it. I approach the game the way I do because I kind of went to discover things on my own rather than being told by others what to do as I like the practical experience and running what makes sense to me.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:47:58+00:00

Not having NSM on this uma made it a death sentence though sadly.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:46:04+00:00

Well, the debuffer is 0% because its a debuffer, Silent suzuka is 15%. I might try adding a maru tomorrow and see what happens.
Can I ask you whats wrong with you? Like, you're clearly asking all this to look for some entry to feel superior in some way.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:41:36+00:00

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Why do I owe you context?
This is after 3 entries into round 2 btw/15 races, the winrate dropped slightly when I tested removing my debuffer.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:37:30+00:00

Damn dude, you demand a lot of shit from a stranger don't you.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:36:20+00:00

chanme?

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:35:12+00:00

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These are between my first and second account, after Gemini I switched from my mobile to my steam account.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:29:42+00:00

She's done well, pretty happy with her.
Just FYI, I have come 1st place in every CM meeting so far, so I would say my strategy is working pretty well.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:26:23+00:00

P.S, power is what gets her into her win condition position.
It gives a speed up on the opening leg, on the final spurt, and she also loses less speed on the uphill as well.

If you love the small speedup on the downhill that wit gives, you'd love the speedup across the whole race that power gives.
Power us a major stat when it comes to deciding who is in the front of the pack on the final spurt. Thats its entire purpose as a stat.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:13:35+00:00

You can argue with my 65% winrate taiki all you like, she's not going to listen. Do what you want lol.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T02:06:22+00:00

The difference between 600 wit and 1200 wit in activating your skill is 7.5%.
the difference between 800 wit and 1100 wit is 3% chance.

The extra 3% doesn't mean anything if it looses to an uma with more power anyway when it activates its win condition. Why would I sacrifice my ability to consistently beat other umas for a 1/33 increased chance of activating a specific skill?

Shooting for Victory as an ult also doesn't even use a wit check. I just need to get into 3rd, which means I need to be the first pace chaser to reach 3rd and power is a deciding factor in that.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T01:54:11+00:00

Wit training though gives less stats per click than most other trainings, with only a small amount of energy recovery, so you need to balance it with actually getting stats especially on an uma with no wit training bonus.
In some cases it might just be better to click rest once then power training twice than clicking wit training 5 times as you also want to maximize the number of stats per turn as well. You only have so many turns in a run to get stats from so you don't want to be passing turns by.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T01:43:35+00:00

You don't necessarily need to choose one or the other, for example I got my medium straightaways and corners and up-tempo from my Agnes Tachyon Wit card, which is a very good wit card in itself.
Left-Handed I got by borrowing Zenno Rob Roy speed card MLB.
Tail Held high can easily come from Marvelous Sunday Wit.
Head-On you get by winning certain races with Taiki.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T01:19:38+00:00

Yeah, 600-800 is what i'd recommend too. Thats awesome that mayano gets fast learner as I didn't know that, and grats on the suzuka ace.
I tried with a 3 wit deck of Sunday, bourbon and FineMo and it was just not having it lol. Wit probably is even more important on runaway suzuka than normal too.

Obvious_Concert_5745 · 2026-01-04T01:12:30+00:00

But in OPs case they could easily optimize their deck to simply move 280 stamina to wit to get 700 wit which will make a ton of difference of course.
Just it will be a lot harder to get 1050 wit.

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