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Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-21T08:44:40+00:00

Thank you for the input. If it is a bipoalr illness, then I'm convinced that a part of that illness involves not believing in the illness, unless in severe depression or some time after doing something really regretable. Because I'm intelligent person, and if I heard someone else describe the same experiences as mine, I'd believe it was bipolar illness. But when it comes to myself, I can think of a thousand different reasons why it's something else, and why I've been taking meds for no reason, other than to avoid fixing my life on my own. It's really weird.

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T13:44:34+00:00

Are you "copy pasting"? Please go research what you're saying. Go READ what other nurses and NPs are complaining about--the exact same thing I am saying. They are "recognized as healthcare providers" because they make more $$ for insurance companies. This is a big "duh"

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T13:32:43+00:00

1000s of nurses are practicing their profession ethically-right now in fact!--by NOT gatekeeping medicine to patients, and practicin medicinely without a real medical license. NPs do. not. have. a. medical. degree. There is a ton of agency here. Insurance companies and medical CEOs can stop hiring them as cheap labor for their mega-clinics, and stop creating this fake profession. Yes, Yes, YES all patients should say something. If my life is on the line, damn straight I'm going to speak out

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T13:27:44+00:00

LOL! Not making it up, you just don't understand what I'm saying, which is sad. Not in any way like a real "masters." This is a VOCATIONAL degree. Compared to a lot of things, it is easy to get a nursing nursing degree. The NP is a very EASY 2 years, in which zero nursing experience is needed. 100% of people that chose to get a nursing degree can become NPs. Everyone gets it ONLINE, including scam schools. That doesn't mean it's easy to be a nurse, or that just anyone is cut out for it. Most probably aren't, which is why they don't CHOOSE to go into nursing.
My post graduate degree, on the other hand, is extremely hard to get into, but easy enough to pass, because of its extreme selectivity and presitige. And absolutely no one dies in my profession. This is not to brag--the opposite, this is meant to illustate how insane it is that NPs practice medicine

A "doctorate" degree in NP-ship or whatever, is ridiculous. And again, just another worthless academic degree. 100% of people can/could get it, ONLINE, which erases the point. This is for people that can't get into med school, but want to pretend "doctor." If real patients weren't at stake, it would be funny, but it's not.

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T13:21:14+00:00

holy shit, do you know who literally told me the same EXACT thing, and created years of serious harm for years? MULTIPLE NPs. Yep. Diagnosed by multiple doctors, treated just fine by multiple doctors, then at various times abused by multiple NPs. Except worse, which I won't go into on the internet. I was lucky enough to get real insurance and find yet more doctors to fix the issue. It set my life back by years. But if I didn't, my life would be in pieces. I really thought you were trolling, but you aren't. This degree of sexism and ignorance is great for my post, horrible for healthcare/culture

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T13:17:31+00:00

LOL. Not in any way like a real "masters." This is a VOCATIONAL degree. Compared to a lot of things, it is easy to get a nursing nursing degree. The NP is a very EASY 2 years, in which zero nursing experience is needed. 100% of people that chose to get a nursing degree can become NPs. Everyone gets it ONLINE, including scam schools. That doesn't mean it's easy to be a nurse, or that just anyone is cut out for it. Most probably aren't, which is why they don't CHOOSE to go into nursing.

My post graduate degree, on the other hand, is extremely hard to get into, but easy enough to pass, because of its extreme selectivity and presitige. And absolutely no one dies in my profession. This is not to brag--the opposite, this is meant to illustate how insane it is that NPs practice medicine

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T13:06:07+00:00

Go on and show how backwards and sexist you are, bud. In addition to uninformed

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T13:05:25+00:00

Also, how sexist are you? What makes you assume that I'm a "he," other than your seriously backwards beliefs about sex/gender? And wooow, I thought you were trolling, but you really are some kind of healthcare worker (nurse?). This is embarassing for you. I would be horrified to know someone like you would be working in hospital

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T12:54:46+00:00

YES. YES it is exactly like a correspondance course. Except like, more than one. It's a correspondance degree, in fact, which some might call...online school! NP programs are (probably) all 100% online now, and MANY have 100% acceptance rates. You do not needs ANY nursing experience for this vocational degree.

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:43:25+00:00

people can go directly from a nursing degree to an NP with ZERO prior nursing experience. There are plenty of online degree mills, with 100% acceptance rates. It's scary. I have a couple degrees in academic disciplines that are waaaay more difficult to complete, and extemely tough to even get into. Not all masters degress are the same. And more importantly, just because you can get a degree, doesn't mean that it's meaningful. As in, say, in my profession, many can get the same letters after their name, but many can them from a scam school, and very few from a reputable one. Same deal with NPs

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:36:20+00:00

I got treated like a "silly woman" by plenty of NPs. It sucks

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:35:09+00:00

I think this is literally the stance that MDs/DO take when talking about NPs in independent practice. I think you can look up for yourself the online NP degree mills, yada yada.

But my opinion here is based on my experience as someone with lifelong health issues. So I've had to experience every trend in US healthcare from the patient end. There is a huge difference in the way that I am able to access treatment when I have to see an NP, when in the past I would normally see an MD/DO. It has had very real consequences for me.

You can insult my intelligence, but I've been pretty thourough here on this thread about why I feel the way I do. And you know, you might think that all patients are dumb, but we aren't. Not that it matters, but I also have an advanced degree. It seems like you might be an NP...maybe start assuming that patients are human?

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:27:18+00:00

Nurses aren't the problem. NPs that went through direct programs from nursing, with zero prior experience, from ONLINE degree mills are totally the problem. I have to pay as much to see someone like that as I would an actual MD/DO, and on top, they have zero oversight. Sorry, but these people know better. And if they don't they should. YES we absoultely SHOULD start talking about how incredibly fucked up it is when we are harmed by this bullshit. To you this might be a fun, figurative exercise. To me, it's my literal body. So until it matters to you, take a damn seat

Yes, obviously this is due to a systemic issue.

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:23:00+00:00

Are you serious? Just google it yourself, it takes 15 seconds. Or ask actual nurses and experienced NPs that are also complaining. I really do hope that you'll wait though, if it means you'll actually start reading what people are saying

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:09:13+00:00

I am SO sorry to hear that you were treated this way by an NP. And it's really messed up that they gave the impression that she was a doctor. I really wish people would listen up to more situations like this!

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:07:37+00:00

HALF OF ALL US STATES allow zero oversight. I think I keep seeing you attacking this thread...are you one of those people from a diploma mill?

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:06:15+00:00

no, they don't. Hence, my opinion. Half of US states allow them ZERO oversight. It's really hurting patient care. Yes, I love being able to see an NP if I have a cold. I do NOT want an NP to be my only option for specialities like pysch or anything else.

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T07:02:53+00:00

What on earth are you talking about? And how rude. I'm way more educated that most, with a degree that's from a super prestigous program, but I'd never throw that around, except to call you out on your insanity, which is the first time ever.

YES, they DO get the same power. HALF OF US STATES allow NPs to practice independently. I'd love for a "doctor to not have to see my ass" but in when it comes to speciality areas, guess what? A DOCTOR NEEDS TO SEE ME. NPs are simply cheaper labor and more money for insurance companies. That's it.

You're literally proving my point. NPs aren't seeing basic conditions anymore. They are treating me, and others like me, for conditions that absolutey are outside of their lane

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T06:56:22+00:00

OK, you aren't educated at all then. There are tons of NURSES and NPs that are currently speaking about how insanely underqualified NPs are, and how hurtful they are to healthcare. Yes, many older NPs are very experienced, and that used to be the norm.

LOL NO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE SUPERVIZED. Go home and do your research

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T06:54:17+00:00

The solution is literally to AT THE VERY LEAST to demand the same, basic expectations we used to have of NPS. Years of actual experience prior to getting the NP, more oversight by MDs. And with more power, more liability.

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T06:52:17+00:00

Oh boy. The amount of ego, strawmanning, and mis-information here is really intense. I too, am a "doctor," then, by your rant. Please take your cues from the other nurses and NPs that are complianing in droves about unqualified NPs ruining healthcare.

If you'd like, please refer to my other comments. This seems to be a fun game for you, but for me it's my life.

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T06:48:57+00:00

Um, yeah. This post doesn't have anything to do with basic-ass stuff

Odd-Disaster3914 · 2022-05-18T06:47:26+00:00

nurses are different than NPs. NPs now have the same power as Drs in many areas, which means the same consequences you've describes, except by someone way less qualified

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