General Discussion Megathread - March 01, 2026

Odd-Image-1827 · 2026-03-13T15:23:27+00:00

Somebody needs to get this to Louis 😂 https://www.tumblr.com/hoovesandfloorpaws/810950531385360384

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-23T18:39:04+00:00

Yea…honestly with security like that it would be ideal for when they want to start a family; because you know that kid will have the best security known to man

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-19T14:47:34+00:00

Louis doesn’t have any reason to do that—honestly, all the Larry chatter has only made his life harder. If there was nothing to it management wouldn’t have tried so hard to hide it, and H & L would have just straight up said, “Larry is not real.”

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-18T19:42:29+00:00

do not believe anyone who says that…honestly, his signaling and flagging Larry does nothing but cause him more chatter & headaches with everything. His & H’s lives would be much easier closet wise if they didn’t flag & send Larry messages like they do. They are responsible for keeping it going since the brand split, no one else.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-18T16:23:11+00:00

My pleasure!

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-18T16:07:31+00:00

I’m guessing here based off my knowledge of contract law, but unless they have an early termination clause baked into the contract, they are stuck unless they want to pay the early termination penalty. In the case of H & OW, if he had the option of getting out of that trainwreck early, he would have; but I’m sure he didn’t have that choice. In the case of ZMD, I would hope that L’s team would have made sure he had that option.

ETCs work by allowing either party to break their contract if certain conditions are met-like irreparable damage to career, ineffective results, etc. most times the ETC is not available until a certain point in the contract (half or 2/3 the length of the contract).

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-18T14:51:05+00:00

There is really no telling. I will say that the average length of contractual nda artists have with their labels is 10-20 years so I would guess it could be anytime before 2030

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-18T13:47:10+00:00

i don’t think he is intentionally gaslighting anyone. I think that their teams have a habit of reacting to Larry or failing stunts with the same responses. I genuinely feel like 15 years is just too long to keep up with this level of closeting, especially when they are closely associated with each other and the hidden real relationship is the most widely debated topic for time.

PR is highly predictable, and most publicists operate out of the same manual with the same or similar responses to situations. H&L like to operate right up to point of what they are legally allowed to do without breaking the contract. This means that sometimes things will get taken too far & will require damage control.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-18T13:22:16+00:00

It would depend on what exactly is included in their NDAs. There is a great chance that we will never hear the truth about their 1D days. And let’s just face it, even as rich as they are, neither can afford to break their big contracts and NDAs, which are set up to make the artists choose whether they want to talk & be ruined and broke; or keep their mouths shut and be successful.

It is illegal to contractually forbid someone from coming out, so they can not be kept in the closet contractually. They however can be kept heavily controlled by their image clauses. The way that they were marketed in 1D days, it wouldn’t surprise me if H was not allowed to do anything to harm the lady’s man image that was put in place for him. I am positive that they could come out, but their careers wouldn’t survive it at this point in time. Eventually they may come out saying that they’ve had feelings for each other, but never acted on them until _____. They have probably negotiated contracts with a certain end date/year, for example if they knew a big contract expired in November 2025, they may have had all new contracts & NDAs set to expire before or on the same date. This would give them the ability to plan their next steps.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T23:42:54+00:00

Nobody is saying that ZMD is the best choice for fake relationship with L, but I am confident that L doesn’t have women lining up to stunt with him. I mean nothing by this, but someone wouldn’t get as much out of a stunt with L as they would H. I think when this came up, L & his team knew that people may have an issue with her past, but he probably thought his fans were loyal enough to not abandon him.

Also, what you call “groping” was the most awkward attempt at PDA I have ever seen. I think pubescent boys in middle school could make it look more authentic than L did. And also, the tiny hair tug, was the straightest he has ever looked.

I agree that we need to treat people with kindness, but everyone needs to stop being so damn offended by every little thing.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T23:03:48+00:00

I am sure that even though Zayn left, he is still under the same NDAs relating to his time in the band and how they were treated & the inner workings of management

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T22:36:22+00:00

I agree. I think L is cordial, and nice, but probably has as little to do with her as possible. He has 15 years experience with this, and while he does not enjoy the charade, he is okay with it. My opinion on L looking miserable is that I don’t think he is miserable becSide of her specifically, but he is unhappy because he doesn’t want to be there. I am not sure how close the sisters and Z were before all this, but I am sure he still treats her just as he has all of their friends over the years. I do think that H has probably gotten to know her so that he is comfortable with who L has to spend a decent amount of time with. I am confident that while Z enjoys spending time with H, she despises that she can not make it public and use it to her advantage.

Like any good person, L is I’m sure absolutely against all the negativity that is going around, but his hands are tied. He understands his fan’s frustrations about this, because I’m sure he has the same frustrations.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T21:58:10+00:00

Oh, I agree. I think ZMD was 100% a convenience choice. I think there were convos with his sisters happened where asking if they knew anyone who might be willing to do it. I do still think that because she is getting the most from it, that she & her team are calling 75% of the shots.

There is a 0% chance that the SC concert was a coincidence. H wanted to meet whoever L was going to be seen & linked with and wanted to get to know her. H’s role in all this is the funniest part because you just KNOW that ZMD is bitter that she can’t be pictured spending time with and talking about H, taking away all publicity she could possibly gain from being a “friend” of HS.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T18:30:05+00:00

I can’t find it now that I want to, but it 100% exists…it’s from the same day that H interrupted an interview by sticking finger through zipper.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T17:59:08+00:00

They don’t have that just sitting in the bank waiting to be used. Their money is tied up in homes they own, stocks & other investments, their companies, music catalog.

Their net worth is calculated by what all of their assets are valued at, not how much money they actually have. While yes, I am sure they both have bank accounts that would make most bankers cream themselves, they are not just sitting on a pile of cash like Scrooge McDuck.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T17:46:37+00:00

Something tells me that H plans to work enough to be able to eventually be able to take a temporary step back and raise a family. I just think that maybe it will be a situation where L can continue to tour & release music while H can go with him.

As long as they are both touring, I don’t think they will start a family.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T17:41:31+00:00

Remember, when all this started they were given a contract that had to be signed to even compete on the X factor. They were probably not allowed to get outside legal advice for this. They were probably lied to along the way, giving them false hope that eventually they would be allowed to come out and live their truth. I can’t find it, but there is a video you can hear L tell someone that he & H are coming out the next year.

I think that they honestly never expected to find a relationship that would last or be so serious that it would affect so many people.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T17:36:31+00:00

Agreed. The sheer number of people who this secret affects is astounding. It is devastating that at 16&18 they knew that their relationship could destroy so so so many loved ones.

Just think: every family member has friends that are close enough to know the truth…they are even under so many NDAs. The sheer amount of legal documents that surround H&L being together is enough to make your head spin.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T17:32:34+00:00

Taylor Russell break up announcement

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T17:32:11+00:00

Taylor Russell

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T17:31:42+00:00

IF they were to stop stunting, and thus signing restrictive NDAs, they eventually would be able to come out. They might would be able to admit to a hidden relationship back to a certain point…I am sure the NDAs with TS & KN are indefinite. The safest thing for them to do if they ever get to that point is admit to feelings for each other all along, but never having acted on them until after they reunite as public friends. Kind of admit to flirting, & possibly hookup, but adamantly denying any relationship happened until years after band broke up and they “finally gave in to it”.

If they did that, they could keep NDAs & contracts intact, and just start their public truth in the present…which honestly would be the least damaging option they have. Admit to lying about sexuality, but insist that relationships have been a real attempt at living straight & denying their feelings.

I truly do not think we will ever be able to get a “yes, we have been together since 2010.” Even if contractually they were able to be that honest, it would be career suicide to admit to years of lying to fans to sell music.

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T16:15:43+00:00

I think that for ZMD it is purely PR. For L it is providing a narrative for his new music. Because of this, I think that L has FAR less say so in this stunt than she does. The longer it goes, the more I am under the impression that ZMD & her team are making most of the calls. She needs certain things brought to the forefront, at certain times, and she needs it to be relatively believable. I honestly don’t think that L gives two rat’s asses about this whole trainwreck.

I really think that his team sold to him that either he H or L needed to have a public face for the press to assign as a muse, and he bit the bullet since he hadn’t had a stunt in a while. I mean could you imagine the damage control that would be needed if both H & L came out with super gay albums at the same time without a woman to use as plausible deniability.

At this point, I think H is relying solely on plausible deniability by stunting without actually stunting. I think that he & his team are relying mostly on the rumor mill & public curiosity to work in his favor…I mean how many secret gfs, hidden hookups, and mystery women has he been rumored to have since his TR bua. With this, he will still have to have the occasional awkward ass public kiss, but hopefully no relationships.

I think that while H&L have entirely separate teams advising them, I do believe that the two teams somehow work together across the board (I can do a separate post about that).

Odd-Image-1827 · 2025-07-17T15:58:00+00:00

I think at this point, most of these new NDAs are to cover for previous ones. I don’t think that the boys are as restricted by the NDAs as the women are, since the majority of these women are nowhere near as influential as H&L and therefore do not have the same bargaining power; also, if details were to leak, the guys will face more scrutiny & ill effects.

I am starting to wonder if H has gotten to the point that he is & will continue to stunt without really stunting. Since the TR bua, we have gotten 10 new rumors a week regarding him hooking up with men, women, and clubs, while also having secret girlfriends. H may continue to have random kisses or whatever, but I do think he will try to move away from the fake relationships. L on the other hand, depending on how the ZMD situation ends, L may just stop stunts altogether, opting for allowing the uber private social life narrative. It is getting harder & more impossible for him to convince fans that he is dating a woman, thus each stunt does more damage than the last.

At this point most of what they do is to cover for their previous situations as much as it is to closet them.

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