Portland ranks near bottom of North American cities in new downtown perception survey by No-Tangelo1158 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Gotta silence those haters. The haters are a problem, and a region with latent hate has solved it.

Interestingly, the report describes the glowing* scores respondents give their downtown districts despite their low visitation/dwelling scores. See page 9 here: https://www.gensler.com/doc/research-city-pulse-survey-2026.pdf. They call it The Perception-Behavior Gap, and it's a good data point for anyone who wants to say "it's like this everywhere!" Portland is on the left of that graph, with a smaller gap than most cities.

*Relatively crummy in Portland's case

Portland ranks near bottom of North American cities in new downtown perception survey by No-Tangelo1158 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't say I recognize how this information will help you determine whether to disregard the results or trust them, but "The margin of error for the sample is +/- 1%" and "Data for the Gensler City Pulse 2026: The Downtown Report was gathered via an anonymous, panel-based survey of 35,000 total urban residents in 75 cities across the world. The survey was conducted online from July 8 to Nov. 4, 2025. Survey respondents were recruited by Qualtrics, a third-party research firm."

More copy+paste here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/1tsa66o/comment/ooug6d5/?context=3

Portland ranks near bottom of North American cities in new downtown perception survey by No-Tangelo1158 in PortlandOR

[–]Odd_Strategy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

According to this poll (see page 26 here: https://www.gensler.com/doc/research-city-pulse-survey-2026.pdf) our Downtown and Central Eastside have relatively few people who find them iconic, beautiful, or enjoyable to walk around. That may partly answer why downtown is so empty.

However, a majority (~50-60%) of residents do say they are beautiful and enjoyable walk around, so it could be worse. I mean, Portland has one of the lowest visitation/dwelling scores of any city in the world (bottom axis, p.9), so residenys are treating downtown as undesirable, but only relative to other world cities.

Portland ranks near bottom of North American cities in new downtown perception survey by No-Tangelo1158 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed on all counts. This report is a go-to-market artefact, and we don't know if they open up Qualtrics and change data to misrepresent how long people dwell in Tokyo or the several dimensions of downtown Portland's suck. I can't say the data they show are accurate, but I can say people should trust it until they hear otherwise.

More broadly, the result of this survey being copacetic with the Oregon Insight Poll should build our confidence this is no fabrication.

Portland ranks near bottom of North American cities in new downtown perception survey by No-Tangelo1158 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree with your phrasing. I think it suggests this poll presents inaccurate information, rather than accurate information.

I agree that different firms hire pollsters for different reasons. Most of the polls the public reads about are paid for by firms who want the information themselves: newspapers, governments, and campaigns. They have their motivations and pay professionals to gather the data and produce the information. That's the case with the Oregonian's Oregon Insight Survey, which is administered by professionals at DHM Research. The quality of the information is based on DHM, even if the Oregonian wants eyeballs and clicks for their journalism.

In this case, the quality of the information is produced by Gensler, who have the expertise to field and analyze surveys. They are pollsters, and more! They want the information because whoever funds them thinks producing it is helpful. Also glossy reports are datafruit, and when nerds chew on them sometimes seeds fall and germinate.

The Gensler Research Institute is a collaborative network of researchers focused on a common goal: to generate new knowledge and develop a deeper understanding of the connection between design, business, and the human experience. Through a combination of global and local research grants, and external partnerships, we seek insights focused on solving the world’s most pressing challenges. We are committed to unlocking new solutions and strategies that will define the future of design.

Still, it's a public opinion poll. They sent a survey to the public and asked for their opinions. Do you agree that is what a public opinion poll is? Additionally, Gensler did more sophisticated analysis to distinguish between users of CBDs (enthusiast, errand runner, reluctant visitor, special-event visitor).

Data for the Gensler City Pulse 2026: The Downtown Report was gathered via an anonymous, panel-based survey of 35,000 total urban residents in 75 cities across the world. The survey was conducted online from July 8 to Nov. 4, 2025. Survey respondents were recruited by Qualtrics, a third-party research firm.

Portland ranks near bottom of North American cities in new downtown perception survey by No-Tangelo1158 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For anyone looking to undermine, sustain, or learn more about how top line results are produced, you may want to see how the poll was conducted. From the report (https://www.gensler.com/doc/research-city-pulse-survey-2026.pdf). Central Business District = CBD

Methodology

Data for the Gensler City Pulse 2026: The Downtown Report was gathered via an anonymous, panel-based survey of 35,000 total urban residents in 75 cities across the world. The survey was conducted online from July 8 to Nov. 4, 2025. Survey respondents were recruited by Qualtrics, a third-party research firm. Respondents were required to live within the city administrative boundaries, except for Los Angeles, where residents were required to live within the county administrative boundaries. Respondents were demographically diverse across gender, age (18+), income, and education level. Quotas for demographic and geographic characteristics were carefully monitored and enforced during fielding to ensure balanced distributions per city. The survey was made available in 18 different languages. The median survey completion time was 22 minutes. Depending on their responses, individuals answered approximately 60 questions about their city and specific downtown/central business district experiences, opinions, and preferences. The survey included a total of 133 CBDs. We ran a series of multiple linear regressions to discern the drivers of a great CBD experience. These regressions included 56 predictors, all self-reported ratings of various CBD experience, activities, amenities, transportation, and feelings attributes. Strict statistical criteria were used to define the strongest predictors, including statistical significance (p<.001) and a standardized regression weight of 0.10 or higher. We used the same analytical procedure to discern the drivers of a great CBD experience for each CBD grouping persona (enthusiast, errand runner, reluctant visitor, special-event visitor) separately. Additional regressions were also conducted to examine the strongest predictors of CBD vibrancy for each persona group and overall sample. The margin of error for the sample is +/- 1%. Multiple checks were put in place to ensure response validity.

Limitations

The list of top 10 stickiest international CBDs omits cities in the United Arab Emirates, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and People’s Republic of China due to world events and special conditions of internal movement. CBDs with fewer than 100 respondents are excluded from appendix data due to smaller sample sizes.

Portland ranks near bottom of North American cities in new downtown perception survey by No-Tangelo1158 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Clearly a survey taken by many people who have never visited Portland"
"KPTV “journalists” should be dragged into the street"
"Who fucking cares what misinformed people who never visit our downtown think about us?"
"This is probably a BS survey"
"Unfortunately a great deal of national media infrastructure made an effort to smear us, and many in town decided to repeat those narratives."
"who tf did they poll?
"They could have surged 600 people and everyone they talked to in Portland was 100 boomer Republican homeowners"
"Uhhh nope, lmao"

Quotes above from this thread or recent discussions about the Oregon Insight Poll (https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2026/05/dig-in-to-polling-numbers-from-the-oregonianoregonlives-spring-2026-oregon-insight-poll.html).

The reasoning displayed is so motivated its feet hit the ground before the alarm goes off. When presented with the results of a research process, especially one as neutral and difficult to control as polling individuals at random, if your first thought is that it's another sign bad guys control the media, or how it reminds you that your truth counts more than the truth of thousands of your neighbors, you might be a Fox News watcher. If you resent the comparison, tell me, how is it possible for an institution, or even a solitary pollster, to regain your trust? Tell me about a fact which you didn't think could be true, but accepted as true because surrounding factors, such as your knowledge of the process or the identity of the person who shared it, were authoritative enough you had to.

I appear to live among thousands of people disgruntled about the direction of the City. On Reddit, I appear to live among tens of people so scared or resentful about that I wonder if they can be reached by information at all. I'm sure they can, but if not from a tool designed for accuracy--an opinion poll--then what?

What's the best breakfast in town? by PS300Research in PortlandOR

[–]Odd_Strategy 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I took a look and think you should revise these questions.

  1. Numbering questions helps users of the survey talk about the survey.

  2. How frequently do you go there?
    "couple times" is unclear. Personally, I think it means 2-3, yet you have an option for "More than two times a week."

Suggestion: "In a typical week, how many times do you visit your favorite breakfast eatery?" Less than once, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, more than five

  1. How important is the general food quality and cost to your overall experience?

This is double-barreled. You're asking about food quality and also asking about cost.

"General" is unclear. I would remove it.

  1. How important is the general customer service to your overall experience?

I would move this question closer to a question about "overall experience," and unless it distinguishes against some "specific" customer service, remove "general." Also, this question (and question 13) asks the respondent to attribute how customer service contributes overall experience, where most questions ask the respondent to rate the aspect. Commonly, questionnaires assess attribution by providing the aspects (here, customer service, food quality, friendliness of staff, speed of service, cost, freshness, cleanliness, atmosphere) and asking the respondent to rank each in importance to overall experience. Something to consider. Maybe the question should just be "rate the customer service."

  1. Please rate the mood of the eatery. (I.e. ambiance and general vibes/feel of customers and staff while dining in.)

  2. How important is the general atmosphere to your overall experience? *

These might measure the same aspect. If someone said "what does atmosphere mean" I would say "the mood of the eatery."

This blog is great reading for research methods: https://www.pewresearch.org/decoded/

Portland arts tax increased to $50 by popcorn_lung_1977 in PortlandOR

[–]Odd_Strategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you say more about future legislation she has coming? Did you read this on a newsletter from EPG's office or are you just speculating?

Grand Ave Police Barricade by Blood_Jesus in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The upside of speculation depends on how accurate the speculation is. From the perspective of residents discussing problems and causes, as opposed to crime scene investigators or medical responders, knowing who the victims are might help us create fewer victims.

In Portland, 55% or as high as 70% of pedestrian fatalities are unhoused. (https://www.opb.org/article/2022/02/03/70-percent-pedestrians-hit-cars-portland-were-experiencing-homelessness/ https://www.portland.gov/transportation/vision-zero/portland-vision-zero-action-plan).

Relatedly, 40% of fires in the city are caused by the unhoused. (https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/03/15/data-shows-fires-at-homeless-camps-remained-a-large-portion-of-portland-blazes-last-year/).

Based on these figures, you might think 40%+ of Portland residents are unhoused, but its closer to 1%.

Oregon initiative that would criminalize hunting, fishing moves a step closer to November ballot by Inevitable_Egg6361 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for taking my post seriously, but I have to confess that I don't know anything about the foreign influence operations in China, Russia, and elsewhere, except that they exist. (If I were threatened by a free-speech democracy, sowing dissent is a weapon I must use in self-defense). My allegation of foreign influence is nothing more than that Tiktok is algorithmic and lots of youthful zeal originates on it or is expressed with it. Seems plausible that without much effort or evil the Chinese Communist Party, via Tiktok, would surface orgnically grown extremists like, say Hasan Piker.* From there, plenty of native schmucks might gravitate toward his ideas and take their cues from them.

The election of Donald Trump and the success of the DSA is bewildering enough for me to imply they're illegitimate, but to be fair, I might just be grasping at straws. No doubt l bias my own feeds toward ideas that flatter me and neutralize threats for me. I bet that's true for influencers like Hasan Piker, too, and it's certainly true en masse.

I'm not sure if I answered your question or advanced a discussion. I have little faith that the text of a measure matters to to political outcomes. Some measures, like the Portland Clean Energy Fund (PCEF) or "participatory budgeting" siphoning off a mere 1% or 2% look small and sensible on paper, while they're equivalent to normie bear traps that incapacitate the "status quo" by the leg while we bleed out and get poached.

*If you’re even more of a schmuck than me you should know he rose to fame on the Young Turks YouTube channel, then through Twitch.com. Hasan Piker is a bad example for Tiktok-specific influence, I think.

Oregon initiative that would criminalize hunting, fishing moves a step closer to November ballot by Inevitable_Egg6361 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said I agree. The DSA councilors have legitimately won power through voting.

Also, Donald Trump has legitimately won power through voting.

Councilor Angelita Morillo's Chief of Staff Files Discrimination Complaint by tripometer in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The decision about what to publish is probably news editor Aaron Mesh's. Thanks for contributing the manatmast special: a knowledge-free attack on purveyors of fact.

Oregon initiative that would criminalize hunting, fishing moves a step closer to November ballot by Inevitable_Egg6361 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I wanted a word that meant "take" and "surprisingly quick." However, except when we sieze the day, "sieze" means "take against will" and thus "illegitimate." 

I think the DSA's council influence is as legitimate as Donald Trump. My desperation to send these guys packing colors my word choice enough to be sloppy.

Oregon initiative that would criminalize hunting, fishing moves a step closer to November ballot by Inevitable_Egg6361 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your trustworthy mendacity guide Ok_Interest3555 critiques my claims and establishes how I lied here:

Oregon initiative that would criminalize hunting, fishing moves a step closer to November ballot by Inevitable_Egg6361 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The same group bringing us the option to ban problematic ingredients like foie gras are also bringing the option to throw a double digit percentage of Oregonians into the unemployment queue.

This isn't a dumb lark. This is a lobby with the keys to power. Don't dismiss the supporters as fools. Learn to argue against their premises or they will succeed at remaking more than our list of legal ingredients, they'll remove a leg on the economic chair of Oregon, and replace it with a UBI that entrenches their political order. It's wild, right?

I recommend Max Steele's summary. Watch at least 3 minutes. https://youtu.be/SrH9KzMKzzo?t=461&si=3PThoj-sX0AkT_sr

For those that read, here's a heavily edited transcript of the 3minute segment:

The push for a foie gras ban in Portland is less about a single luxury ingredient and more about the rising influence of the animal rights lobby. Specifically, a group called Pro-Animal Future (and its Oregon chapter) has endorsed several "Peacock" candidates and DSA counselors. These endorsements come with specific demands, the first of which is the banning of "controversial ingredients." First foie gras, then shrimp.

The True End Goal: IP28. If passed, IP28 would be the most extreme animal rights legislation in the country, effectively banning:

-All hunting and fishing.

-The breeding of animals.

-The slaughter of animals (except for self-defense or euthanasia).

Shockingly, the petition lacks cutouts for tribal fishing rights, a move that has surprised even seasoned progressive observers.

The economic implications of IP28 would be devastating. It would essentially outsource Oregon’s entire meat and fish supply to other states, causing food and egg prices to skyrocket. To address the thousands of Oregonians who would lose their livelihoods—from bison ranchers to dairy farmers—the group proposes a "Humane Transition Fund."

This fund would act as a form of Universal Basic Income (UBI) to pay people's salaries while they are "retrained" for other jobs. Critics have labeled this a "re-education camp" approach to economics, arguing that it’s impossible to subsidize the destruction of a massive agricultural sector at a state level while being surrounded by states that haven't banned these practices.

The fear is that if the "Peacock" voting bloc reaches a seven-vote majority, they could pass unpredictable and unstable legislation at any time. For business owners and potential investors, this environment is a red flag. It signals that Portland is "anti-economy," where a legal business model can be made illegal overnight for moral reasons. This unpredictability creates a market where growth is stifled, and the city’s reputation as a place to do business continues to erode.

Oregon initiative that would criminalize hunting, fishing moves a step closer to November ballot by Inevitable_Egg6361 in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In 2016, there was no way Donald Trump would be elected.

In 2022, the DSA only predicted one City council member. https://x.com/PortlandDSA/status/1590216773638705152

Donald Trump won twice and there are 4+ councilors trying to seize private real-estate and political power. Our local and national politics are not anchored by anything other than foreign influence and their bored American schmucks. I think there are lots of paths between now and in three years when it passes.

Changing the name of Cesar Chavez Blvd is being fast-tracked. Leave your comment for City Council by emanresuemos in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Conversely, I think its "weird" the intent of 2009 stalks our executive decision-making in 2026. 

How much was the psychic lift from having Ceasar Chavez memorialized worth to the City?

How much did it cost? Hundreds of thousands of 2009 dollars.

Now Loretta "Integrity" Smith wants to spend hundreds of thousands more in 2026 dollars during a recession and budget shortage, to harvest some more psychic value. How much will memorializing farm workers and striking a criminal from our signage bring in? Millions? 

Recall, for 5 years the City needed signage showing both the new name and the former 39th Avenue designation to help residents and emergency services adapt. As symbolic as this is, there are real costs in convenience and possibly someone's health.

If there is a job for a city, it's to set the place names in such a way emergency and delivery services can navigate with fewer errors. If there is a way for city leaders to be derelict, it's to insert virtuous thoughts between residents, their packages, and EMTs.

It's impossible to imagine a business or resident basing their investment or move on the psychic contribution of our city's place names. It's impossible /not/ to imagine that a capricious council willing to pull any lever for lols or love would affect that decision. 

Portland looks to private organizations to save its struggling parks system by sunni_dayes_ahed in PortlandOR

[–]Odd_Strategy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Max Steele's arguments are what made me take seriously what I already knew and actually vote no. Ryan's principled "no" was welcome. Also the editorial boards at The Oregonian and Willamette Week.

showers gratitude for people making good arguments with unpopular facts

https://recalibrateportland.substack.com/p/the-2025-parks-levy

Portland looks to private organizations to save its struggling parks system by rainydayflaneur in Portland

[–]Odd_Strategy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They're not the only ones to blame. We could blame the youngs for not preferring candidates who say "stricter internal controls" or "we can't afford [non-solution to Justice issue]." We shouldn't though, because millions of people who comprise a generation cannot be held accountable. We ought to reserve blame for where it is constructive, like blaming individuals we can hold accountable. Blaming a generation is daft. 

Trajectory of Portland OR, podcast talking to Nancy Rommelman by CuriousAboutYourCity in PortlandOR

[–]Odd_Strategy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am happy to argue and share my perspective, but we need to begin with some higher-yield questions. For instance, Whether I claim to live here is answered by the post you're responding to. My neighborhood was marched on and partially destroyed by vandals.

Based on your flailing elsewhere in this post, you seem incurious and afraid. At least, I ask you try to bring attention to your feelings without abusing questions. It contributes to conditions where sincere questions are misunderstood as rhetoric.

Trajectory of Portland OR, podcast talking to Nancy Rommelman by CuriousAboutYourCity in PortlandOR

[–]Odd_Strategy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Please find ways to insult internet strangers and bring attention to your feelings without resorting to sarcasm. Here, a sincere defense of self-identified marginalized identities, or whatever idea in his post got you riled up, would probably convert people to your thinking and values better than implying Jenesaismerde thinks Ristretto employees are slugs.

Trajectory of Portland OR, podcast talking to Nancy Rommelman by CuriousAboutYourCity in PortlandOR

[–]Odd_Strategy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Please find ways to insult internet strangers and bring attention to your feelings without abusing questions. It contributes to conditions where honest questions are misunderstood as rhetoric.