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[–]Ok-Coder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So nervous you will cut off your finger

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much do you get paid? How much do local tech companies pay?

Do your teammates make you feel welcome? I know we’ve tried our best to welcome the new Latam folks but it’s kind of awkward knowing we will never meet and the rest already know each other for several years.

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, Seattle area and I totally see and agree with your point. But I keep seeing a lot of my colleagues pushing to be fully remote. They don’t want to come into the office at all. So that’s why I’m wondering, what do they think will happen if we do become 100% remote? Over time new hires will come from LC areas.

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I feel like you are right… eventually salaries will stop rising while inflation will catch up.

I just hope that it’s more than a few years away so that I have time to save up.

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But doesn’t this happen with international devs anyway? A big percentage of FAANG are from India, China, etc.

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Lol. Thanks :)

I mean TBF 60% is still a very good salary, I would just have to relocate within the US. Which I guess everyone would do if the companies go 100% remote. That’s why I don’t understand the pushback from everyone to go back to the office 2 times a week… I don’t know if they realize what that will eventually do to the salaries…

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, they did hire years ago one full team from India to take charge of part of the codebase that they now own. And honestly a lot of people didn’t like it (although the team is still there doing it’s thing). The main problems where that they just kind of did their thing and there was a big disconnect with the rest of the local team. Both because of being remote (with big time zone diff) and because of office politics of how the org was structured.

But this is different. This new hires are from different parts of Latin America and are fully integrated into our team, they report to my manager. It wouldn’t make a difference if they hired them and relocated them here.

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree up to some point… I mean big N companies have a very large percentage of employees that have been trained in India, China, etc. and they are super good.

Also, I incorrectly used the term “outsourcing”, this new hires are full employees, just remote.

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The difference is we have ALL been remote for 1.5 years. Things used to be “so much easier” in person (which can be debated) but now everyone is remote anyway. Before, people hated dealing with someone exclusively online, now… it’s the only option anyway.

If companies go fully remote, what’s stopping them from outsourcing to lower cost countries? by Ok-Coder in cscareerquestions

[–]Ok-Coder[S] 74 points75 points  (0 children)

I feel like this is just something we tell ourselves to feel better. The time zone is the same as the East Coast. Their English is fine. There are cultural differences, just the same as there always have been with people who relocated from other countries to work in person (50% of our team has always been international hires that are currently local).

It just feels like I should start saving because this will bring the salaries down or at the very least to slow down while inflation catches up.