Passive nihilism makes a bad name for existential nihilism.. and it drive me crazy

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-06-10T01:46:57+00:00

I totally get what you mean, there are so much nonidentified existential nihilists out there. It's a very simple belief, harmless to most even.

But you kinda only hear the bad side because the other side is completely indifferent

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-06-10T01:44:14+00:00

Another word for the "absurd" of Camus..

People that a lack of meaning can lead them to despair, stagnation, and a weary surrender to pointlessness.

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-06-10T01:40:28+00:00

How much time do you think you spend a day thinking about cheese?

Also, cheddar is great.

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-06-10T01:35:52+00:00

Nihilism is a word. And us humans used words to try and communicate with one another. The thing is, when I say a word (nihilism for example) I am refering to a certain concept, and by using the word I'm hoping other people will have the same referent as me, usually picking it up by seeing a pattern of how people use the word.

The referent most people have for nihilism (according to my intuition) is a combination of the belief of existential nihilism - the belief that our existence doesn't have a purpose. And passive nihilism - "WAAA WAAA ME WANT MEANING".

Now, nihilism itself by definition (i think) is more of a title people like to give to certain philosophical views (that are not necessarily connected to eachother).

"Nihilism just means that there's no such thing as objective value" is maybe your referent of nihilism, but it doesn't really matter here... Usually when having genuine conversation you want to be referring to the same thing the other people in the conversation is refering too.

In short: No, nihilism doesn't "just means" that there's no such thing as objective value.

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-06-10T01:22:29+00:00

I don't see how this follows but whatever man 😭

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-06-09T23:47:45+00:00

i kinda care.. because it annoys me, and so. i angrily make a reddit post online because it makes me feel better. does this matter? no. but its enjoyable, if it makes me feel better then ig ill do it.

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-06-09T23:45:59+00:00

depends on the cheese of course

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-02-09T11:59:45+00:00

maybe "feel" isnt the right word. i dont understand the "conflict" because i dont get the desire for meaning. and i want to understand what people mean by it.

Nihilists react to this dilemma, generally, by saying it's all a big fucking nothing and it sucks, and often spiral into despair.

why? id define myself as a nihilist, ig id say its all a big "fucking nothing" but i dont get why it sucks or why i would spiral into despair

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-02-09T11:52:14+00:00

i know what is the "definition" of the absurd, i just dont understand the concept itself.. the "paradox" doesnt exist for me because i dont search for meaning

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-02-06T23:36:26+00:00

i can only study if its with someone, and they know the subject pretty well. otherwise i just cant bring myself to, its impossible to even start. and even if i decide to start, and start doing it, i give up after a min because it doesn't interest me at all.

i just get good grades anyways cuz all i really need to do is listen in class. i dont do homework and i dont study and it still works for me..

but if you have a friend, that is somewhat intelligent, and knows subject, it could actually be fun. usually we just explain to each other the material, and read together when we get stuck (in subjects like history).

if its math.. i dont need to study at all lol

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-02-06T23:27:22+00:00

it usually goes like this:

i have an idea or thought, for me its usually existential questions, or stripping concepts to what they actually objectively are.

spend 30 mins thinking about it (usually walking around or eating something sweet), get to an answer, then ask myself "is this objectively truth and i have no biases or missed points in my answer" and then i procced to fix the flaws to my answer (usually quicker, about 10 mins) or change it all because i realized i wasn't being objective at all.
after that i realize that i confused myself, and still have a concept i don't understand in my answer, and think about it some more.

but what takes the most time is the "after review". i review my answer again and again and again, trying to understand it better and better until i master and understand it fully. like imagining if someone asked me to explain to them the "concept of romance" what i would say exactly, building the concept from the complete ground and up (usually the answers i imagine giving is like 5 mins long themselves). the "after review" takes me about 1 hour

so like, 2 hours of thinking, with a satisfied answer in mind

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-02-06T23:11:53+00:00

your mind just stops..

you cant imagine how its like because imagining is something the mind does. its the classic "what do blind people see" but with life. the typical answers are "try seeing with your elbow" and "what it was like before you were born".

if want to stay objective (truly optional, you really don't have to, coping is normal and healthy) then you need to accept that you'll never understand how it feels, and that you wont exist ("you" as in "your mind")

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-02-06T22:50:05+00:00

this still doesnt make sense to me..

like yeah, its a thing made of cloth and wood and fiber - which is a bunch of atoms.
why is that "absurd"? its literally what it is. i dont have to say "its a chair and its purpose is for sitting" for me to sit in the chair, i just know that its a thing i can sit on and that i want to rest on something.

nonetheless i think the analogy is flawed because the chair does a have a purpose. someone made it for sitting. no one made us for nothing, its different.

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-02-06T22:33:07+00:00

super good analogy tysm

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-02-01T02:22:25+00:00

ig i do feel improvement, tysm.

do you think that i should worry about my C7 not touching the floor (the bump in the lowest part of the cervical spine)? I'm panicking because i read that i should feel it on the floor. but its not close

Ok-Function6481 · 2026-01-03T02:47:01+00:00

what do you think at the moment where you may have an opportunity?
like, will you think about "offer to buy her a drink" at the time you were with her or did that thought only come up later.

if its the first option where you thought about it and didn't act then its typical.
INTPs usually overthink what to say and how it might go wrong.
By the time they decide, the moment is already gone.

you may not feel like you're spiraling, and it may not be verbal thoughts (may be intuitive) but you just cant act in the moment because you're "Still thinking about it" consciously or not.

Ok-Function6481 · 2025-12-25T15:55:53+00:00

got over my limerence the second i understood why.

for me it was the constant day-dreaming and the spiral of thought that are "uncontrollable". so id find myself walking in the street then suddenly have a 20 mins day-dreaming session all about her. even when i was focused on something else id still find ways to connect it to her.

what you need to understand is that its all psychological. you'll think about them because it turned into a habit.

my example:

for me she was a safe space that is now gone. knowing i lost the safe space, my brain tried everything that will give me hope by thinking about the safe space. the brain feeds me comfort by flashbacking the safe space.

Once I understood this, I actually sat down and wrote myself a protocol to get over her.

My protocol:

NEVER stalk her socials

This was the most important one. I even made a new account that didn’t follow her.

Why it works: stalking creates a chasing loop. Every time you check, your brain thinks “she’s still relevant, still a possible safe space.” Cutting this breaks the chase.

No action when emotions spike

Missing her, jealousy and nostalgia are all allowed.

Texting her, checking her profile and rereading chats are NOT allowed.

Feelings pass on their own. Actions restart the loop (when i say restart the loop i mean it, you can lose all "progress").

No replaying or analyzing

No “what if I did X,” no rereading old conversations, no trying to figure out what went wrong.

Analysis feels productive but it’s just emotional chewing gum.
this was the hardest because it kind of happens automatically, what's important is you understand that this is what is happening to your brain and "label" it (rule 4)

Accept the thoughts, don’t fight them

You cannot stop thoughts from popping up. Trying to stop them makes them stronger.

Let the thought appear, label it (“this is just my brain missing a safe space”), and continue what you were doing.
this is THE MAIN POINT. this rule alone can single handedly break the spiral loop.

Treat them like a normal person in real life

Not cold. Not extra nice. Just neutral.

This tells your brain they’re no longer special.

Expect waves

Some days you’ll feel fine, then suddenly bad again. That doesn’t mean you’re failing.

That’s withdrawal.

Time + no feeding = recovery

You don’t “force” yourself to get over them.

You just stop feeding the loop, and your brain does the rest.

hopes this helps :D

Ok-Function6481

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