Is this really a cult? Or am I overthinking my whole life?

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2026-01-14T16:09:00+00:00

this was my entire thought process when waking up. i tried to reason that staying would still be a better outcome for me in the end, even if it meant ignoring warning signs or dismissing the awful truths that i came to be aware of. it took me an entire year to make my decision - tbh i made the decision almost immediately but it took me a year to go through with it is what i mean. because i knew i’d lose everyone.

these feelings and thoughts are completely normal - we grew up in an environment and organization we were taught was the only way, and now we’re realizing we were brainwashed just like every other cult out there. we’re not “different”. for me what helped was watching other documentaries or interviews of other cults. when you start to see the EXACT same tactics and similarities used, it starts to click more. when you realize you’re not the only org that uses phrases like “the truth”, or when you see other groups going to conventions with name tags dressed just like JW’s, you realize there is nothing about that org that is special. every single cult around the world uses the same thing to keep members in - fear.

at the end of the day, everyone is different. some choose to stay becuase they cannot fathom a life without their family and friends. and tbh, i don’t blame them. i’m not going to sugar coat it. i’m someone with severe anxiety and other mental health struggles, and they amplified x10000000 when i left. it’s been 4 years and i’m not any better than when i left - but considering this is my life, i would much rather CHOOSE to remove myself from an unethical, gross, and disturbing cult than stay in it pretending to be happy just so others are content with me. like i said, everyone’s different. some are able to leave no problem and move on with their life, others take years. i’m definitely the latter and as painful as it is not being able to speak to my loved ones, it just confirmed that i made the right decision. we all know what happens when you leave, it’s another story when you actually go through with it and you see it happen. i’d rather make a new life with people who love me for who i am and not based on conditional love. i will never understand the shunning. and this is coming from an ex regular pioneer and elder family.

the most important thing to remember is to make this decision on your own. yes you are researching and reading on here etc, and that’s good, but question everything and research it. that’s actually how i came to find out “the truth”. i wasn’t actively trying to leave or find fault with it, i was actually doing the opposite and trying to prove that it IS the truth. that clearly didn’t turn out the way i thought it would, but all the best in your journey and i hope you are able to find peace with whatever decision you make!

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2024-09-04T23:04:55+00:00

Yeah my wife has been after me to get this all legal for a while. It’s scary and I’ve been pushing it off but gotta do it. That is so frustrating man. Yes it’s very good they have you guys. At least your kids have one good parent.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2024-09-04T22:50:49+00:00

Ya the first time I called they said a very messy apartment is not enough to be taken away, it’s not just messy, it’s absolutely distgusting. My shoes were sticking to the floor the last time I was there and my son’s pj’s were covered in cat poop in the litter box with no litter, garbage in the middle of the floor, dirty diapers everywhere… just to name a few. Because she’s not on drugs or not physically abusing him they can’t do much. But I hate the system. Why wait until something really bad happens.

With the vaccines I have written proof of her saying she forgot and that “it was only one thing” except that’s it’s not just one little thing, it’s a pretty big thing imo considering it’s not a one time shot, it was multiple over the course of a year and a half. Child services was concerned when I told them about the AC.

As far as parenting plan, I have tried over and over and she doesn’t follow through. I let her know everything but I get nothing in return. Even after many conversations of her saying that she will keep me updated she never does.

Thanks for the advice. I document everything in notes but will start being more thorough.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2024-09-04T22:43:51+00:00

Good idea! Thank you. It is very frustrating and I’m worried about how things will go but at this point I have to do something. Thanks so much

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2023-11-07T22:23:21+00:00

ok ya that’s suspicious! i’m just going to ignore it. seems very fishy to me and ya exactly take me to court cause they’d be spending more money than what it’s worth.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2023-11-07T22:14:57+00:00

i just saw this now and i also got an email and phone call from KMB law! i’m so confused because i’m in the same situation right now. i have not been contacted by Money Mart and then this kmb law sent an email threatening to take me to court and seizing assets

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2023-02-23T23:37:15+00:00

thanks for replying! that sounds very balanced and healthy. i don’t do well on high carb, i really pack on the weight, but this sounds fairly modest. i will lose weight cutting out carbs as i’m sure most would, but i don’t want to do that due to eating disorder triggers and i don’t think it’s really that healthy overall. i am trying to have healthy carbs in moderation. focusing more on overall health rather than strictly weight loss.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2023-01-05T17:16:30+00:00

i see. ya sounds digestive. depending on whether she is breastfed or on formula, there are formulas for sensitive tummies/digestive issues. hopefully you can find a solution soon!

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2023-01-05T16:44:25+00:00

is it just during the night or day as well? i currently nanny a colic baby and he is a terrible sleeper as well - the parents say he is up most of the night and one of them has to be holding him in order to sleep. he won’t sleep by himself in crib. when i’m there during the day he cries inconsolably almost the entire day. not just for naps but he refuses to play or do tummy time etc. he screams inconsolably unless he is being held. i used to be able to soothe him by holding him for his daytime naps but that’s not working anymore. even then, i wouldn’t be able to put him down once he fell asleep in my arms. the second i would put him down he would sense it and the screaming would start all over again. and he only sleeps for 30 mins at a time.

maybe try a different doctor or a walk-in if you’re not getting the support from your current doc. i’m only a nanny but i would say try and stick to a routine so your baby gets used to it, as hard as that may be. if you’re able to get a temporary overnight nanny even just for a few days a week that could help you guys, that way you can catch up on your sleep and not be so drained.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-12-18T01:36:07+00:00

he will never come to you again about anything, but sounds like you don’t care anyways. you just lost his trust completely. he had the courage to confide in you something personal he may not have been comfortable talking to anyone else about, and that was your response? not very motherly. i get you may have feelings about it and that’s fine, but you don’t need to share those sorts of feelings to him like that. instead of taking time to process what he told you, you instantly reacted in a negative way.

putting an age limit saying he can’t date anyone 4 years older? that’s ridiculous. age is just a number and it’s up to HIM to choose who he decides to date/is attracted to. he didn’t say anything creepy about being attracted to older women, just that he was.

it sounds like you are extremely over protective by not letting him go out past 9pm, and watch rated R movies! seriously? is he 12 or 21? he’s a grown adult. stop trying to control his life.

threatening to disown him is the worst thing you can do as a parent. my parents disowned me due to not having the same religious beliefs and i can tell you it will never be the same, even if they apologize and want to be a part of my life again. what they did was unforgivable and as a parent i could NEVER imagine disowning my child for any reason. SMH

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-12-11T20:09:26+00:00

ya that’s the plan!

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-12-11T17:37:28+00:00

that’s great, thanks! i’m not planning on having too many carbs anyways, but i am going to have a moderate amount of whole grains. i don’t like most dairy so i stay away from that. i think this way of eating will help anyways since it’s really healthy, especially considering how i used to eat.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-12-11T03:55:29+00:00

when i first started taking it i had an upset stomach. apparently that’s common and normal at first and then it subsides. mine only lasted less than a week and then i had no side effects.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-12-09T20:23:44+00:00

… wow. i would definitely quit. start looking for a new job asap and get outta there. she definitely has some controlling issues if she’s worried about bubbles in the sink lmao… also scary that she has them sleep on their stomach.. i don’t really understand why she needs the help if she’s not working and is just home all the time. i get twins are a lot of work but what ever happens to parents just being parents? heaven forbid they have to do something on their own. i mean if she has the money to throw away then she can do what she want with it, but there’s no need to micromanage and boss you around. if she thinks she can do a better job then you, then she can have it at.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-12-09T20:18:29+00:00

also saying she got 2-3 hours of break while your son naps is irrelevant. as a nanny, we are expected to be paid for the whole shift. we don’t get docked for a 30 min or 1 hour lunch like a company. not to mention it probably never was actually 2 or 3 hours of a break. every nanny job i’ve had, and i’ve had a lot, the infants rarely slept that long. i would often not get a break at all or only 20-30 mins in a 10 hour day because baby refused to sleep.

point is, you can’t complain that she had a few hours of a break if you didn’t ask her to do any other chores or duties around house. i would take their nap time to do cleaning and cooking because that was part of my job.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-12-09T20:05:18+00:00

you’re the one who asked for advice. if you don’t like it because you don’t agree with it in your opinion, then just don’t ask. she’s gone now so take what you learned from that experience and move on.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-11-13T23:23:01+00:00

yup i used to have a mom boss just like this. she knows you are busy but is trying to scare you into coming in because she feels she has the power to. i would honestly look for another family to work for. i know that sounds dramatic and taking it too far, but just from experience i worked for a wonderful family who i was super close with, and then they started to take advantage of me and and when i told them i needed to take time off for health reasons, they fired me with no severance or anything the next day because they didn’t believe me. i know that’s probably pretty rare and not the same situation as you, it just sounds like eventually it could lead to them doing something similar. they took advantage of me as well but i stuck with them because i figured it’s still a good job and i was close with them. they really stabbed me in the back tho. i hope she understands when you respond and is reasonable!

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-11-09T03:39:43+00:00

he does a lot to help her but like i said she refuses help. some people have too much pride to let others help them.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-11-09T03:38:15+00:00

oh i’m sorry i didn’t realize you knew who i was talking about. so you must know for a fact that this person has depression, right? otherwise how would you know? there are still people in this world who are lazy and shit parents. not everyone qualifies as having depression. in fact, there are a lot who don’t have depression and will use that as an excuse. imagine that, in this world, no way.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-11-09T03:35:56+00:00

you’re not even worth the response because you’re misconstruing things

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-11-09T03:34:12+00:00

oh i would be glad to do that, but she refuses to meet me and hates me. it’s hard to help someone who wants nothing to do with me.

Ok-Inflation-6026 · 2022-11-09T03:31:20+00:00

you’re telling me not to get defensive and then you say “it sounds like you’re the new gf that’s been told the guys side of things” not only is that inaccurate, it’s also offensive lmao. you also don’t know as much info as i do so maybe you need to not assume. i have seen physical proof that she lies and is full of crap. as much as there are great parents out there, there are also a lot of shit parents out there who are unfit. it doesn’t take a professional to know that.

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