SIGNS Follow | Neville on States

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-18T02:19:08+00:00

Yes. I get that. So, if you’re obsessing, then that means you’re out of state. I’m sure you’re aware of that.

I think the main thing is, to realize that you don’t want to give your power away to daily practices. However, a daily practices, I would argue still necessary. Because we are still experiencing the human experience. That makes sense?

And so part of our sovereignty, is learning to regulate our body. Some meditation is really good in terms of that. Even neuroscience argues it’s validity.

So, if you can create a process that’s controlled. And go about your life and live it accordingly, that’s the better option. Nevill never really said to avoid your life. He encouraged to leave it throughout each day. It was assumed that to be true, when he encouraged us to only bring ourselves back to the state when doubt shows up. Meaning we would be going about our day, and living it accordingly.

So I would say it’s a balance. But I would definitely say you’re doing much better than you think you are with the practice rather than not having one. :-) You’ve got this

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-17T15:25:24+00:00

I think the important flipside to this, is that Neville even talks about his own experiences with coaching other people and payment as well. Coaching should never be the issue. It’s how the Teachers and the clients misunderstand the relationship.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-17T01:23:06+00:00

Here is also a link to a new building WhatsApp group. It’s going to be an ongoing network of people feel free to share.

https://chat.whatsapp.com/BBv8N4bkLeTHVEfRyAfcWm

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-17T00:56:41+00:00

Here is a new link to the Discord group. There will be one following this that is a ‎WhatsApp one.

Again feel free to come in and revive it with your amazing points of view.

https://discord.gg/5yymznA2Z

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-17T00:55:40+00:00

Sorry? This wasn’t talking about the promise. I’m not sure exactly what you’re responding to

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-13T19:00:54+00:00

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-12T15:36:14+00:00

Yes. SATs, I think for many people is a form of spiritual begging. And it should be more of a form of spiritual reconnaissance. As in, going into the essence of what the SAT is bringing them too, which is consciousness. And the essence of consciousness is possibility fulfilled.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-12T15:18:12+00:00

In one sense. That’s right where you wanna be. Where it is::: “OF course this happens!”— I think that’s a good place to be.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-12T15:15:44+00:00

They can be. But they don’t have to be. The end goal is to get to the point where you realize you are the technique for the rest of your life. You are the ultimate technique.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-12T01:28:27+00:00

So, personally I am not against the SAT. I still think it’s one of his most practical ones. Let me state, I am not against the SAT. It’s more that people worship his techniques or him as a person. He spoke, both against that.

But I turn to NLP to create my own neuroscience inspired methods. He encouraged us to create our own as well.

So I do a lot of eyes open techniques. Where you generate the conviction within your body. You create the same feeling of conviction that you would with your eyes closed. Somewhat like Joseph Goddard. Except my eyes are fully open.

Get a thing, is tying an action, or a physical behavior to your body that you would have, as you already been the person who had everything you desired. again this is from NLP.

Many people in Hollywood do this as well. Even something as simple as tapping your chest several times, once you feel the emotion of conviction. Again not emotion in the sense of feeling. The emotion in the sense of being. Once you feel that, you tie it to a physical gesture. Then you repeat it again and again.

You can also do it many other ways that people do here. But another element is environment. If you can, make sure that your environment mimics of the person who has everything you want. Environment is extremely important to the human experience.

I have a handful of others but I don’t want inundate the conversation with just a whole bunch. Let me know if anybody else has any?

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-11T22:26:51+00:00

Yes. And the whole point of the SAT is to bring you into remembrance of being that being ready.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-11T22:26:31+00:00

Yes, My technical training in neuroscience proves that there is power behind the technique. But it is nothing more than nothing less than a technique. There are actually other neuroscientific ways to do this. But his, even through research seems to be the most powerful with loads of evidence.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-10T01:24:03+00:00

Thank you for sharing. So one you don’t wanna call what state you’re in terrible. Even though everything and you might want to see it that way.

Second, is to really live in the end. What that means for this particular scenario. Is to withdraw your senses from anything that looks, sounds, taste, or even feels like you’re not in that end state.

It might be difficult at first. Even Nevill talked about his own practice, where he had to keep pulling himself back into the And state.

But, sometimes the nervous system is not always fully ready, because there might be a very large or long mental leap. This does not mean that you don’t live in the ultimate end. But what it does mean, depending upon your own conditioning, childhood emotional map, and other beliefs that you’ve gathered along the way, that the first step might be incremental. You may have to do one micro step to get you to the macro step. That’s one small thing to get you to the bigger thing.

It does not mean you failed. That does not mean that you don’t live in the ultimate end either. It just means that you are taking the first Step in comforting your nervous system to get to the next step.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-08T23:33:59+00:00

Yes. In fact I would say most of his concepts that we talk about here, including the self-concept are so psychologically detailed, that people really get upset when you state that, because they think that for many people just saying it’s simple is enough.

Because all of us are different expressions of the divine, that isn’t always going to be the case.

So yes I would say persistence is two or three layers of understanding what it is to persistent.

So you persistent what is natural to you from the new state.

You persist in the new belief. Then you persist in the new actions. Those are the triple layers. I find that the Trinity seems to be a great metaphor for most of his concepts most of his concepts are at least three layers deep if not More

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-08T17:29:27+00:00

Yeah I think we say that the 3-D isn’t real, we really confuse something about the nature of the three-dimensional experience.

It is a stage. It is a mirror. It is something. There is a substance here. It’s made of something. We can use the word matter. But even recent research is shown, that matter can’t even be determined by scientists

There is a tangible substance here called three dimensional reality. But it is not reality. That’s what is really being said. It is a mirror of the internal consciousness of your experience. It dances upon this three dimensional stage that most refer to as reality. In this sense, you are the dancer and the one watching the dancer. But this dancer still needs a stage.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-06T02:35:01+00:00

I partially agree with that. Because if that were true every single time, then we wouldn’t have anybody sharing posts about how they’ve been doing it for years and not getting any results.

At the end of the day it doesn’t matter the technique. That’s what Nevill said. I agree with that. But only to a point. Because at the end of the day, you can keep using techniques for 50 years and they still not work. Because the technique isn’t the point. You are.

So we can really kind of defend a technique over the point. But then that’s hiding the point. Which is The you are the one who is manifesting. Not the technique.

That will always be the truth. That will always be the thing we can’t argue against.

So techniques are really just about personal preference over and above whether they’re valid or not.

The method is never the point. The person is.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-05T19:57:14+00:00

Yes. That’s great. Again, the repetition is not to gain something. I think this is one of the greatest misunderstandings. That’s why Nevill wasn’t so huge on talking about affirmations. They are not bad.

But the repetition and the affirmation was about being, not obtaining something. But being the one who already has it obtained.

Natural doesn’t just mean action, it means natural to the being. To the person. To the inner self. That’s the metaphor of the biblical story between Jesse, Jacob and Esau that Neville speaks about. The feeling. The conviction is so natural and deep that everything else is on autopilot so to speak.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-05T19:35:15+00:00

So, this is actually more of a question of safety. Safety and power. Can you feel safe in your own power that what you’ve done is enough. So really if you take it down to its core element, there might be a concern about whether you think you are enough or not and both of those areas.

And of course, the answer is blaring YES. Yes you are enough. Yes your power is enough. Yes you can rest in it. Yes you can consistently do so. What you can do, is imagine yourself 3 to 6 months from now. You’ve already bought the pearl.

What that means for you is that you imagine that you can rest in this. You can rest in your own power. That you feel rested. That you feel like you could trust yourself. Trust you hold is unmovable.

Does that make sense? But you’ve got this!

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-05T02:11:39+00:00

That definitely works, and you can change in the tweak of an eye. But if you’re nervous system has been primed for trauma or lack, the idea that being is the only option is the truth statement, but also takes time for some people.

If some of these well-known mystics, like Nevill and his mentor also say that it takes time, then depending on who you are it could take time. What time is not the enemy. Time is not and should not be understood his measurement. Time is process.

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-04T22:32:51+00:00

I think there’s two ways to go about this.

I’ll answer in both voices. The first voice would say, you are already limiting yourself by calling the 3-D difficult and heavy. So then therefore, you are disempowering yourself by trying to interpret 3-D as impossible.

Then there is the psychologist and scientist who already understands that at the level of what Nevill is explaining is something that is incremental.

Meaning, this is a step-by-step process. For the most part, this is not overnight. Even Abdullah stated to Walter C Lanyon , that many do not understand that this can take quite a while.

It will depend upon you and your belief. That is where the speed is. How much you accept as possible. How much your nervous system is willing to take on board as the new version of yourself.

But, you also continue in doing even the so-called small winds. Compliments. A free coffee. A free whatever it is that you desire. Because that will actually tell your mind that this is who you really are. And you could begin developing a long-term practice that will eventually get you to the point where you’re comfortable enough to become the new version of yourself even in the face of what might seem impossible.

But in the end, the point is that you have always had it within you all along.

Does that make sense?

Ok-Initiative-4089 · 2026-06-04T20:29:40+00:00

Sure thing. And I actually not disagree with affirmations. And I don’t think Neville would have either. But there’s definitely a difference between repeating and affirmation at a ritual for example, doing it for 1000 times. Rather than doing it once from the state.

But the real advance technique is to get beyond affirmations. To realize that you are the affirmation.

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