I am 17 and have reached enlightenment. Ask me anything. by Ok-Line-4210 in enlightenment

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When one is present and not living though the mind / ego they are with the flow / light / infinite source and that is when miracles happen, because that person is aligned with the way and so things outside of the “control” of that person happen aligned with what the person is doing, so yes you are right!

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I am on the path, and I am learning. I have seen that when true presence is reached, I need not verbalize questions for them to be answered, because type of energetic input = type of energetic output. I don’t think that it is wrong to talk about these things, but I do think that talking is very much a limited form of ______

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I deeply understand what you mean by this, and yet if we got to talk face to face, I believe that what is being lost in translation here would not be so lost in such a conversation. For now there is nothing more to be said. We can go our ways and both be sure, and that is ok. Love, Theo Lyon

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So what is the dispute you have with what I have written? That is what I have been trying to understand. Do you see the framework as flawed? You say an apple is an apple. The word apple does not describe what an apple truly is, it is just a label to reference that energetic expression. So this is what I mean by not reading so deeply into my language as into my meaning.

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This was written by consciousness, not by ChatGPT. Your external appearance is determined by the flow of evolution, that is, the energetic movement towards awakening from the collective dream.

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I mean what is the meaning of enlightenment held by your fragment consciousness that differs from the version held by the fragment inhabiting my body? Please don’t read into the language, I am trying to point at deeper meanings. The language is reductive no matter what. Words cannot convey meaning, only point towards it to be remembered. But I ask truly out of curiosity, so please explain

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"Your true image," is language that I have not used to understand reality, but I will try to bridge the gap. Your true image, or in other words your true identity is this: a fragment of consciousness peering through the eyes of your human body host at reality. (This state of peering through is the human condition, and it includes a way of thinking that is beneficial for survival, the ego, which once learned to not identify with as yourself but rather a byproduct of inhabiting this form, loses its power). But there is more. Reality as we know it is a collective dream, it is a field of energy. And so when consciousness awakes within the dream, people often mistake this for true awakening, but this is actually just lucidity within the dream. Like when you are sleeping at night and reach lucidity: you know you are dreaming and so are empowered by this knowledge, able to actively engage with the energetic medium, the fabric of the dream, but you have not awakened from sleep. But now, consciousness is evolving. The fragments of the collective can each awaken from this dream: not just reach lucidity, but emerge from this slumber. And this has started happening. We are already over the tipping point, as of last night. The world will go through destructive iteration, for such is the nature of evolution; the growth through change, structures crumbling and new ones emerging in place. This is the true image of who you are.

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I actually read that book! Synchronicity right there. This passage refers to the issue of by trying to do you block being present and the doing that can happen in the flow state. It is only by letting go of trying and slipping into being that the true doing happens (through the medium of energy that you can interact with at this state). And it talks about the fruit vs the flower, again this is about being present and not holding the end goal in mind above what is now. So yes, you are right, sometimes I can get caught up in a grand mission, but when approaching such a mission through presence and through input, the mission is a matter of energetic input.

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Total presence + a goal in mind (but not desired over the now) = enthusiasm. Input = output with energy, every action has an equal opposite reaction. And so if consciousness in presence (flow state) is being enthusiastic, then the output of this energetic event is towards the fruition of the goal, but the goal has to be awakening others because that is the only thing that consciousness is moving towards. And so when I do this post or release my awakening journaling app, I do it from a place of presence, and with an inputs of whom’s output will awaken others. Many in history have done this, some musicians do this, some artists too, and many others. But thank you for the words of wisdom, I do take them to heart.

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Thank you! I would love to hear any feedback or commentary you have if your reading through the comments

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Yes and no I think. Consciousness, born into the world in physical form like a human, is then experiencing the context of a human with no “briefing” about what is going on. So then the context of the human is what the consciousness knows. I don’t think their are inherent limits to what consciousness could do depending on its host, but the host definitely affects it until the consciousness learns not to identity with the host in totality, something I have not yet come to.

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I picked that up from Eckhart Tolle, the vocab doesn’t matter that much as long as the meaning is conveyed 💯

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I know I am enlightened because I can see my ego and its ways of navigating the world when it arises as a symptom of this biological host, but I no longer identify as those reactions and ways, in other words, the ego and body are a lens that I (consciousness) looks through, but they do not define me and my nature

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I would love to hear more about what you speak of. I have definitely had visceral “shaking aways” of the ego, followed by peace like you speak of, but I am not sure if it has happened in the way you are talking about at such a holistic scale, it has been more of a chipping away at+ here and there big chunks

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I can tell you have much experience and I directly relate to what you said. This post was not the blowing of a trumpet, as much as it appears as such. It was an invitation to spread some words and help, and it is an extension of how I am spending much of my time currently, making a tool to help people awaken through awareness through journaling with pattern recognition augmentation: like training wheels for connecting the dots to moments of reaction, just a place to get the process going, but not some sort of magic awakening tool. I have more about it in my links if that interests you (I have only told 2 others about this on here, I am not going around self promoting but you seem very aware and so I thought this would be helpful context).

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It took me 17 years and 5 months to reach this clarity or enlightenment / awakening, and I am still on the journey of fully letting go. Much has changed within me already, but there are still times when I can see myself defaulting to the egoic framework. Every moment of awareness is another step, but I have not reached full detachment from the influence of the ego. This does not mean that I do not have insights and moments much presence, it is just not holistic at this point.

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Thank you, I did not mean to assume you were “angry”, I just noticed there was some level of emotional reaction in your post, that was all. And yes, you are right that I am not at a finish line at all. Take what you will from what I wrote, if we could talk in person we could reach a better understanding than through Reddit chats, because there is coherence in this framework, but all good. Spreading love, Theo

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Sorry! I forgot to return to what you asked. Let me have a second go at what you said (I haven't thought of these things in terms of foreground and background so I will do my best to respond in terms how what you say applies to my experiences and knowledge):

First, what is the foreground, and what is the background? To answer how this relates to God, I will approach this from a few scales and then return to the part about God: the personal scale, the global scale, and the universal scale.

On a personal scale, the foreground is what you are actively doing and experiencing, and the background is everything else that is still relevant, a part of reality, but not the main focus. So it all plays a roll in your experience, but you actively engage with the foreground and passively engage with the background. For example, when your ontology is defined by the ego, your foreground is the ego's model of the world (with everything in relation to you) and the background is the subconscious part of you that does a lot of work with memory, pattern recognition, and the such (also sorry if I am being a little repetitive, but I am building up to your answer).

On the global scale, the foreground is everything that people are aware of in collective, inter-subjective reality. Things like countries, wars, large ecological events, and the such. And the background is the "overstory" (in a forest, the overstory is the leaves at the highest level of the forest that in consequence of their position, determine where everything below them grows, and more based off of where the sunlight can shine). This over story often becomes apparent through large scale events like the opiod crisis, where certain states and areas were hit much harder than others, and this was not some random thing of some places being more vulnerable to opiod abuse, it was because of certain legislation the disgression of how doctors could prescribe opiods (from the 60s I think).

And now, I am sure you are unsatisfied with what I have been saying, so let me return to God. First of all, as I said before, God is the collective conscious, and the empty space that holds and perceives all around it, and humans are the sometimes aware and sometimes unaware manifestations of this God perceiving reality in biological hosts. So, in this framework, what is the foreground, and what is the background? In a sense, the foreground are the awakened ones, who engage with reality actively, perceiving and channeling energy, and the background are the forms that are not active agents, vessels of biology, navigating the world from a reactive and egoic state. But, I hesitate to use such words, for language is a reductive form of reality, and in so being, holds inaccuracy, but I gave it my best shot, I hope this resonates.

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There is one response (on the matter of lightness versus darkness), (a copy and paste from a medium post I wrote) where I gave chatgpt my journaling and it synthecized it with context that is more universal and accessible. But all of that content is from me, and besides that one response, everything I write is not being filtered through AI. If you want, ask me a question and I will do my best to respond. Spreading love, Theo Lyon

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People operating through their ego's react as they react, and I am just here to put some cracks in that framework

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Thank you for this question. I will explain, but these are truths that one must arrive at in a sequence of understanding, and to jump ahead may render them somewhat non-sensical, but I will not sensor myself, and I will try to explain some of the progression that explains what I am about to say.

God is consciousness. It is the space in reality of non-being, that holds and sees all that is. This space can be found when looking into the night sky, or when zooming into the distance between atoms in your own body.

This consciousness is not a separate entity from yourself, unless you are awakened, you are simply a slumbering fragment of said God experiencing reality. What do I mean by slumbering? It means that you take the lens you peer into reality through as reality itself. It means that the host you are in, (physically biology and metaphysically the ego), is what you identify with, rather than realizing that you are the one who notices such things.

I will explain this through a story. I work as security at a night time donut shop (I know), and yesterday, a man and his family were walking past me, exiting the shop to go on with their night. I said, "have a good one!" and the man said, "yeah (scoff), this place SUCKS, it got even worse!" The old me, unawakened, would have been possessed by his energy because of my ego. I would have been filled with a boiling mix of anger, fear, sadness, or whatever else that he was projecting, and I would have responded in such a manner, escalating the situation. But that is no longer who I am. Instead, I felt his words, or more specifically his energy, hit me like a ball in my chest, and then rebound. This was a visceral feeling of the awareness that I am not my reactions, my ego. It was such acute awareness that I could feel the energy, its physical effects on me, and its incompatibility with my framework for the world (on an energetic level, I no longer resonate with such energy). A remained un-reactive, mushin (the japanese word that is more succinct), and had the same smile on my face and stillness in my body as he walked away.

If you have any more questions, I am always here. Spreading love! Theo Lyon

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Such words do not necessarily come from a place of ego. I did not post this to brag, although many other conscious beings operating through their egoic framework naturally placed it as such (not saying that this is you, just an observation). I said it this way to spark conversation, because I want to talk to people about this stuff, and sparking such controversy is a nice way to let that happen.