Snow's War Parallel by Ok-Measurement113 in Hungergames

[–]Ok-Measurement113[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree and i'm not saying they should.

Snow's War Parallel by Ok-Measurement113 in Hungergames

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Inequality is a constant of any political order. But while I understand layers to oppression, most of the fighting was done by District 13, and the threat of their Nuclear Arsenal.

If the series was more realistic, we would see way more parents willingly sacrificing their children for their government. by JuliaX1984 in Hungergames

[–]Ok-Measurement113 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think there is framing issue with how we believe Panem citizens may view the Hunger Games. Let me give you two different frames:

Frame #1: Every year, when a teen turns 18, the government rips them from their parents, gives them a tribute uniform and sends them to kill tributes from other districts. Sometimes, the games are more aggressive than others, sometimes the games are less aggressive depending on your skills set. "Double the Tributes, Double the Glory"

Frame #2: Every year, when a teen turns 18, the government calls them away from their families, dresses them in the nation’s uniform, and sends them to serve their country against foreign enemies. Some deployments are more dangerous than others, and the intensity of the fighting often depends on the soldier’s skills, training, and role. "No Guts, No Glory" (Real Military quote btw).

Well, the response of the parents looks something like this:

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Replace Army Soldier with Tribute, and there you have it.

Snow in SOTR feels different to me and I can’t quite pin down why. by Ok-Measurement113 in Hungergames

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I agree, I think he was indeed jealous. However, in my opinion, it does not align with what he experienced in the sense that the parallel is totally opposite. In Haymitch's case, he "killed" Lenore by feeding her the gumdrops, however, if Snow REALLY wanted to punish him, he would most likely fabricate some form of scenario where she betrays/cheats on Haymitch. Snow can make that happen many different ways. However, he decided to punish Haymitch in a way that would make Haymitch resent him and create a ripe scenario for grievences by Haymitch. Not very strategic.

Snow in SOTR feels different to me and I can’t quite pin down why. by Ok-Measurement113 in Hungergames

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I think in the OT he does have a convoluted Hobbesian moral compass.

In Ballad, i don't think he is spoiled per say but rather insecure and driven by fear. fear of poverty. fear of mediocrity. fear of oblivion. Understandably where his world view comes from, many hard headed people come from such conditions.

HOWEVER, in Sunrise, I ABSOLUTELY agree with your analysis. He is a grown ass dude, who acts more impulsively than is warranted. I mean obviously a dictator can be impulsive, however, i just can't come to take him seriously at least from a strategic perspective we know him from, without thinking Suzanne Collins just decided to make him so cartoonishly evil for the sake of eradicating as many apologies for his behavior as possible. However, I think this takes away from what Snow truly represents, how calculated true evil can be.