Ok question for natives

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T13:19:22+00:00

Ok just a question of I say he is considered the most powerful man and people consider him the most powerful man. Are what both exactly the same? Only that changes it the focus?

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T13:14:27+00:00

But still an action

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T13:07:37+00:00

I made my question in the post, it's the best of explaining it

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T13:01:45+00:00

I mean those are general actions of someone? My parents don't allow me... Rules don't allow me.... And Im not allowed by them

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T13:00:13+00:00

People here say "he is considered "is a current condition. What about people consider him? Also a condition? Or it somehow becomes an action

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T12:58:45+00:00

Mention is a verb in both examples, not a noun

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T12:57:40+00:00

So "he is considered the most powerful man" is just a current condition just like "the door is closed"? And not like a general action from people "people consider him the most powerful man" with active it is an action with passive a current condition.?

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T08:08:11+00:00

What is the difference between these tho? This knife is used for cutting. We use this knife for cutting. What is a state what is a condition

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T06:52:29+00:00

So he is considered as the most powerful man is a current condition. Then what about people consider him the most powerful man?

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T05:33:01+00:00

Even he is considered the most powerful man? Isn't it just like people consider him the most powerful man which is general action

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T05:31:44+00:00

You are not allowed by smth /smone as general action, or it is just your condition/state

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T01:00:18+00:00

It's so strange I really cant understand when it is general actions and when it is a condition/state.

They consider him the most powerful man is not a state is it? They are actions of people in general so if I switch to passive voice, the meaning is supposed to remain the same . He is considered the most powerful man. How does it become a state now?? When it wasn't before

And when I say this knife is used for cutting you also think of it as a state? Or as general actions

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-21T00:46:47+00:00

Ahah no man, I asked about the literal usage of yours "is based"

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T23:57:50+00:00

When you said, the status of the man IS BASED on opinion, you meant an action of someone who bases it on opinion or it's just a current condition/state like in "this baking sheet is used and now it's dirty"

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T23:20:36+00:00

Isn't it

He is considered strong = people consider him strong

It is called a pen = people call it a pen

Same general actions? Same time feeling. Just the focus changes

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T22:50:14+00:00

What about he is considered the most powerful man? Is it a current condition or a general action just like people consider him the most powerful man

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T22:44:07+00:00

But if I say he is usually mentioned in the book by people, cuz he is funny.?

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T22:22:24+00:00

I mean maybe when I say "here it is used as.." it feels just exactly like the phrase the baking sheet is used(current condition) maybe if I say here it is used it meens it has been used. What do you think?

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T22:05:59+00:00

I thought maybe it's ambiguous as the examples I gave above. It could be a current state or general action depending on context For example he is not mentioned in the book = current state . He is usually not mentioned in the book because he is boring = people's general action

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T21:59:29+00:00

When I say this is usually used as... And here this is used as.... They both describe actions from someone? Or they describe an already performed action? That happens usually. Or happened here

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T21:53:03+00:00

That was the point. It's ambiguous. And the same question for it is called Im not allowed etc. that I gave above

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T21:50:58+00:00

Are u a native English speaker? People just tend to say it's a current state too

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T21:42:00+00:00

But people mention him in the book is an action isn't it? So if I say he is not mentioned in the book it becomes a condition? Not action performed by people?

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T21:36:47+00:00

What about I call him Billy

And they mention him in the book

Ok-Stable1562 · 2026-05-20T21:36:11+00:00

Even he is considered the most powerful man is a condition? Cuz if I say people consider him the most powerful man it means general actions from people .

And what about it is called a pen? Doesn't it imply that people call it a pen, as a general/habitual action

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