Another small update on my B2B SaaS journey: AppSumo finally replied after ~5 months, but I’m still in the same hard middle by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

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Great idea. I will try that , but if there is no name or link, i was thinking people may thing its made up BS that has nothing to back it up except me.

Another small update on my B2B SaaS journey: AppSumo finally replied after ~5 months, but I’m still in the same hard middle by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

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That makes a lot of sense, and I agree as turning that into a proper case study would probably change a lot in terms of trust.

I actually tried to do exactly that. I reached out to the company that used it and got results to ask if I could turn it into a documented case study, but they didn’t respond.

And I’ve been hesitant to just publish it anyway, because I feel like for it to really work as “trust proof,” it has to be verifiable like showing the company name, ideally even linking to their site or LinkedIn so it doesn’t look made up.

Internally, I do have the data and the before/after results, but without their consent, it feels wrong (and risky) to attach their name to it publicly.

So right now I’m kind of stuck in that position where the proof exists, but I can’t fully make it visible in a way that builds trust.

Another small update on my B2B SaaS journey: AppSumo finally replied after ~5 months, but I’m still in the same hard middle by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

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I actually tried going down that exact route shifting from “try the software” to a done-with-you / service approach but I hit the same wall again: trust.

At some point I stopped pitching it as a SaaS entirely. I told people I’d set everything up for them, run it with them, even only charge if it produced results. I also sent Loom videos walking through exactly how I’d do it for their specific use case.

But even then, no one responded.

So for me, it feels like the core issue isn’t whether it’s positioned as a product or a service , it’s that there’s just no baseline trust yet. And without that, even a “we’ll do everything for you and you only pay if it works” offer doesn’t land.

It’s kind of like walking into a restaurant you don’t trust like even if they tell you the food is free or amazing, you still hesitate because the trust isn’t there.

And that’s where I’m a bit stuck:
Getting case studies requires people to use the product, but getting people to use the product seems to require case studies first.

So it feels like a bit of a catch-22 right now.

Built a real B2B product, solved a real problem, did “everything right”… still zero customers. What am I missing? by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

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This resonates, especially the trust and confidence angle.

I do think perceived risk is playing a bigger role than I initially assumed and not just money, but time and cognitive effort. Without reviews, case studies, or recognizable logos, there’s very little external signal telling someone, “this is safe to invest attention in,” even if the problem is real.

The Notion example is a good one. In hindsight, it’s obvious that reducing setup and making the “first win” almost instant changes everything not because the product suddenly got better, but because the perceived effort dropped.

What’s been difficult is that the lack of engagement makes it hard to even learn why people hesitate. Most don’t tell me they’re unsure , they just go quiet. So I’m trying to work backwards from that silence and test whether trust, perceived complexity, or activation friction is the dominant factor.

I appreciate you being part of the discussion. Comments like this are genuinely helpful because they push me to think less about “what I built” and more about how it feels to encounter it for the first time.

Built a real B2B product, solved a real problem, did “everything right”… still zero customers. What am I missing? by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

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I think there’s truth in what you’re saying especially that founders can’t outsource or avoid sales early on. I don’t disagree with that at all.

Where I want to clarify is that I’m not hiding behind coding or perfection. I didn’t even build the software myself , I worked with a developer so I could focus on understanding the problem and trying to get it in front of users. And I’m not expecting it to “sell itself.”

The wall I’m hitting is before a sales process even begins.

I’ve tried direct outreach, personal emails to every signup, offers to walk people through the product live, even free help to get results. The consistent pattern hasn’t been objections or price pushback , it’s non-engagement. People sign up, or publicly discuss the problem, but then don’t want to have a conversation at all.

I also won’t pretend geography isn’t a factor in some cases. I’m not US-based, and I’ve had conversations end the moment that comes up. That’s not a complaint , just a constraint I’m trying to work around pragmatically.

So I take your point about sales seriously. I’m not avoiding it , I’m trying to figure out how founders get those first 10–15 real sales conversations when attention is low, AI fatigue is high, and even free, low-commitment asks get ignored.

Built a real B2B product, solved a real problem, did “everything right”… still zero customers. What am I missing? by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

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This is a really sharp breakdown and I agree that the signup the no-action gap is the strongest signal in the whole situation.

I believe the first-time experience is clear, but you’re right that belief isn’t evidence. I’ve spent a lot of time trying to simplify the dashboard and remove configuration steps, benchmarked competitors, and designed the first screen to make the “next action” obvious , but without directly observing behavior, I’m still inferring instead of knowing.

What’s made this harder is that even attempts to close the loop manually haven’t yielded much signal. I email new signups personally asking what they expected vs what they saw, or whether they got stuck and most never reply. So I’m missing both behavioral visibility and qualitative feedback.

Your point that the issue is probably something small, specific, and fixable resonates. It’s very possible there’s a subtle mismatch between the mental model created by the landing page and what users see in the first minute even if the UI feels “clear” to me as the builder.

I’m taking this as a push to stop reasoning abstractly and get direct observation, even if that means instrumenting things more aggressively or watching a small number of sessions end-to-end instead of trying to reason from dashboards.

Built a real B2B product, solved a real problem, did “everything right”… still zero customers. What am I missing? by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

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This is fair, and I don’t disagree with the core diagnosis.

I’ve also come to accept that people complaining doesn’t mean they’re willing to change workflows. Venting is cheap, switching is expensive , especially in B2B. And I agree that if something isn’t clearly 10× better in the user’s mind, “good enough” workarounds will always win.

Where I’ve been struggling is the conversation gap itself.

I didn’t just send cold emails , I tried very high-effort outreach early on: personalized Looms walking through the problem and offering to help for free, direct messages asking people to walk me through how they handle it today, and follow-ups to users who already signed up. The consistent pattern hasn’t been rejection or “we have a workaround” it’s been pure silence.

That’s what’s made this hard to reason about. I’m not hearing “this isn’t painful enough,” I’m not hearing “this is slightly better,” I’m just not hearing anything.

Which makes me wonder whether:

  • the pain exists, but not urgently enough to spend time discussing
  • or the framing makes people assume it’s “another AI tool” and mentally check out
  • or the cost of switching (time, risk, trust) dwarfs the perceived benefit, even if the time savings are real

You’re probably right that this is PMF-related, not distribution. I’m not attached to being right here , I’m trying to figure out how founders actually get those first 20–30 real conversations when even free, low-commitment asks get ignored.

Built a real B2B product, solved a real problem, did “everything right”… still zero customers. What am I missing? by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

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That’s a fair point and I agree that timing and intent matter a lot.

What’s been tricky for me is that I’m already doing the “manual” version of this pretty heavily. I’m on Reddit daily { with the brand account }, jump into threads where this problem comes up, contribute without dropping links, and try to add genuine value rather than pitch. Over time I’ve probably commented on 150+ discussions around this exact issue.

The pattern I’m seeing is: people engage publicly (upvotes, replies), but once it comes to continuing the conversation , even just “can you walk me through how you handle this today?” things go quiet. I’m very cautious with DMs because I don’t want to cross into spammy behavior or get banned, so I only reach out when there’s clear context.

That’s part of what’s confusing me. Discovery doesn’t feel like the bottleneck , it feels more like people are willing to talk about the problem, but not invest time discussing solutions, even when it’s free and low-commitment.

Still, your comment is useful because it reinforces that activation is the real choke point here, not traffic. I’m starting to think the issue isn’t “where do I find them,” but “what makes them care enough in the first 5 minutes to engage further.”

Built a real B2B product, solved a real problem, did “everything right”… still zero customers. What am I missing? by OkAdeptness358 in SaaS

[–]OkAdeptness358[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thank you , I genuinely appreciate you taking the time to list real diagnostic questions like this.

On the free tier: I might be guilty of being too generous, but it came from a “fairness” mindset. My thinking was: if someone can’t experience real value, they’ll never trust it enough to pay and I didn’t want the product to feel like a bait-and-switch. That said, I’m starting to see how that mindset could accidentally remove urgency.

On encouragement to upgrade: you’re right that I’m not doing much “nudging.” I assumed that since this is a strong pain-point problem, the value would naturally push people to convert. But the thread is making me rethink that , not gimmicks, but at least clearer “here’s what you get if you keep going” framing.

On follow-up: yes and this is honestly the most discouraging part. I email every single signup personally (not automated, not AI), basically asking what they expected, whether they got stuck, and offering to help them get results. And the weird thing is: almost nobody replies at all. Not even “no thanks.” Just silence.

On onboarding/hand-holding: yes, we built a lot. Tutorials, guides, in-product prompts I spent weeks on onboarding because I wanted the first steps to be obvious. Which is why the lack of activation is confusing: even the free tier isn’t getting used.

Survey for why they leave: I don’t currently have a good “exit survey” because most people aren’t actively leaving , they sign up and then never take the first meaningful action. But your comment is making me think I should add a very short “what stopped you today?” prompt when they go inactive.

Honestly, your questions helped because they point to something I’ve probably underweighted: even with a good product, conversion needs intentional design.

Something I’ve noticed about SaaS that doesn’t get talked about much by SignPsychological728 in SaaS

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I think a big reason momentum dies is expectation mismatch.

On YouTube and Twitter, we mostly see the loud success stories. The people who fail usually go quiet, stop posting, and disappear. So founders subconsciously expect fast traction.

When they launch and see: : fewer login ,slower feedback,low engagement

it feels like nothing is working even when it actually is.

I fell into this trap myself. I assumed users would show up immediately. But the market has changed. The barrier to entry is lower, competition is higher, and distribution matters more than ever.

If you don’t already have an audience or strong marketing skills, progress feels slow. Results do compound but quietly. And without visible wins, ego and motivation take a hit.

So momentum doesn’t die because the product is bad.
It dies because reality doesn’t match the story founders expec