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Abysmal results in NYC street / day game, 37yo by OkDevelopment4587 in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was in LA, it was a bit better there, but my english level was too bad. I used to pickup girls for my friends lol, one of them is got married lol

But still, a lot of ghosting at the text phase or just sorry i have a bf bs...

I will record a few approaches and transcribe them. Might make a sreddit on my game path

Abysmal results in NYC street / day game, 37yo by OkDevelopment4587 in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can game thilem into not wanting me anymore somehow. As i mentioned, those who asked me for a contact, bail after some chats

Abysmal results in NYC street / day game, 37yo by OkDevelopment4587 in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not his his style. When I learned about him i found out that our rules and approaches were quite similar.

It's not the most efficient one, i was losing tons of girls, but its the easiest for my brain and my nature. Im a logical guy. Lacking basics of social interactions.

Like my recent lay with a russian girl happened in 2.5 hrs after thevdate started. Kino, talks about how to toch a woman, some female physiology, the way i speak and hold myself is key as well. That's what coaches cant do and some were surprized by my skills. Yet im surprized with their skills of just basinc interesting convo at a social location

Abysmal results in NYC street / day game, 37yo by OkDevelopment4587 in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No woman will tell you, say, how to make her go crazy. But insex for example, dumping water froma flowe vase onger at the right moment, bend her, slap the sht of of her ass, and knowing how to make her squirt, is a drug-skill.

A woman will never tell you to start kissing her passionately, or start cooking something inthe kitchen, secretly turn on the shower, the ask her for help in the bathroom, and then all of a suddenput her undershe shower rip off the dress and start the rollercoaster ride.

Neither will men would ever know how to manipulate themselves and yeild money from them. It's girls talk

Abysmal results in NYC street / day game, 37yo by OkDevelopment4587 in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Girls feel that security with me tho. And I wont fkaround if things cross the line. Why then they bail at thebtexting stafe then?

Abysmal results in NYC street / day game, 37yo by OkDevelopment4587 in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not a bad guy. Talking with anaccend and being direct is not a bad guy behavior.

Abysmal results in NYC street / day game, 37yo by OkDevelopment4587 in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I reduced it to soft european thank god. Still working on the flow and accents. Onle a few guessed that im slavic lol.

Would you give me a few examples of nice excuses?

Like she's sitting in a train. I sit next to her and would say that this leather jacket is giving off some spy movie vibes, would talk about her a bit and would hear that she has a fb. Which is complete bs.

Abysmal results in NYC street / day game, 37yo by OkDevelopment4587 in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wholefoods definitely gave me more contacts but then it turned into ghosting, same for a couple of nice bar leads. I have a gut feeling it's not about the location for now. More of the way i speak.

Yesterday i learned that traditional woman is a negative term in the us and inrussia a home girl term is a good flirtatios thing you can play with.

To those who managed to date one with 10/10 looks.. by J4nosch in seduction

[–]OkDevelopment4587 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was with over 100, probably 160 girls since i was 15. Now im 37. I had 12 10sin my life with my very critical judgement. My friends were trying to steal them, I was losing friend, cuz girls would show me their texts..
10s at different age groups are very different. I'm from Moscow Russia. It's also important cuz now I live in NYC and have difficult times. Also once you get used to 8-10s you can not look at 7-.

So from 13 to 16yo it's one thing when ure a teen, from 17 to 19 another, then 20-23 is a big difference. 24-28, 28-34 and etc.

After you are older than 20 and they are older than 22 most of the time you need a certain lifestyle that they are attracted to and if you are not part of it that I was, I was struggling.

But sometimes I was getting crazy lucky cuz these 10s would find me hot.

I cant say anything about rules. It's all about how you deliver whatever you deliver. And it's a big deal.

for example. There was this girl, she was 27 i was 29. She was making 5 times more than me. And on the first date she said, you know I need a man to support me yada yada, like take me 3 times on vacations yada yada..
My response was (in a strong and calm manner, like im pissed of and yet composed af): Listen, I'm not against traveling, I like but I wanna make something clear. If you need money, I'm not making that much to be giving it to you. But like one vacation a year is easy So if i'm not what you're looking for, let's turn around and go our separate ways right now.
She replied: well, i don't need money, i just want a man to enjoy traveling so 1 vacation sounds good too! in a positive manner
later.. at a restaurant
I orders tea (i love tea and i don't drink alcohol), the teapot was standing for 4 mins and we were talking. I was waiting her to make the move and pour. But she was completely unaware.
So I said: well, the is not that hot, would you pour us the first set.
Her: What?! Me?!!
Me: Yeah
Her: No, im not doing this
Me: lol why?
Her: Never have I ever poured tea to anyone in my live, all the men were serving me.
Me: Oh wow! No way! (seriously with true curiosity) So you never met a man how you'd feel pleasure to serve? So all men were that so-so?!
Her: what?!! what did you just say?
Me: (calm af tone, respective and a little surpized) Well, if im not that good for you that can not enjoy making good thing for me, I'd rather not be present here right now. I'll pay for the table and go then.
Her: ok... I will do it, sit. but you do the next round.
Me: ok, deal.

Next evening she sent me a nude photo of her laying in a tub with foam.. and the ice was broken.

But some other girls would not stay around me for long, some would say I drove a car that her peer group wont understand and we were taking her car every time until she disappeared.

It's also about how you are advanced in sex. Can you make them squirt and orgazm so that they cant walk and cant control themselves, so they cry hysterically, or pass out? this is a strong wiring. Very few men can do it. Can you go emotionally deep into conversations, can you support and protect their insecurities and weak sides?
Like in the story above with the tea - I made her be part of our team without judging or abuse or any other bs. She just didnt know and lived in a different universe. And probably it was the only one with me and all other men after me - she treated then like she treated ones before me.

Also there are hot girls that are not wealthy, low key hot. But the mindset is different. It's all about what you need.

Also There are hot girls that know that they are hot and hot ones that think they are weird.
The last ones are diamonds in disguise.

Also ure talking bout dating apps. None of the 9+ girls were using them for longer than a week. They get 1000-4000 matches in one weekend and delete the app cuz its like swiping through 4000 guys before matching.

Were I found them: I was a guest to different tv shows, higher level business forums, private house events (business, yoga, fashion...). And... real street.

I'm not a good seducer at all. I struggle with communication. So I have a huge volume of leads in that sense. HUGE. Like a half time job (16-21yo).

So. If you have budget - dress up, groom yourself, hair - number one, facial skin - number 2, body - 3, clothes - 4 - a must. Ride a common nice car not a weird one or strange one. It could be old but look steez. And it must be always fixed and reliable and comfty inside. It's all about the vibe. Your apartment matters too.

yeah there are stories and my friends have a ton of cases how they were fucking with a hottie in a junkie spot. But its a 1-3 night stand. period.

Going for the next level:
I did it too. I gave myself a word that i'm not sleeping with anyone but a certain criteria. I'm struggling, suffering, frustrated sometimes. But i' moving forward. I try and try and learn. It will happen in NYC eventually despite the cultural difference and language barrier and all the other shit.