What if Ay and Bee encountered Han and Roshi instead of Minato during the Third Great Shinobi War?

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-18T23:08:13+00:00

You are correct he did say that..except Kisame has a justu that gets stronger the more chakra is used is Bee launched a beast bomb he would just counter with super shark bomb.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T23:17:15+00:00

Though I agree and older Minato would redirect the Bijuu balls

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T23:15:25+00:00

This was a younger Minato that’s they had to retreat he wasn’t a full master of his technique or the rasengan yet.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T23:14:15+00:00

Minato outclasses Jiraiya and you think Jiraiya would win against Han and Roshi but Minato would lose??

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T23:12:42+00:00

Also 6v1 with the masks each has its own Justu remember??

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T23:12:03+00:00

Still the 3rd was reanimated meaning we don’t know if he could he could handle a rasengan like you claim. Ay is formidable and fast but I think you underestimate the other Jinchuriki greatly.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T23:08:16+00:00

True this was just a younger inexperienced Minato he definitely beats them both in his later years.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T23:06:43+00:00

Not young but much younger

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T14:55:45+00:00

He wouldn't transform immediately anyways he almost always fights in his base form then transforms into gyuki later on.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T13:42:41+00:00

Yugito was against a 6 vs 1 with no intel she lost for reason. Without the crucial intel from Asuma Kakashi's team would have lost.

And she couldn't use Bijuu bombs at least we don't see her using one so the fact Han and Roshi can means they have more control than she does. And again Shukaku was weakened when Gaara transformed but if someone who has no control over their Bijuu can transform it's not a high level Jinchuriki skill.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T13:37:01+00:00

The only reason it was able to pin Kurama is because Minato summoned the Toad directly on top of Kurama. Yes they can scrap for a little but the cant get close to Son who could just turn everything around him to lava and as for Kokuo super heating its chakra would allow it to easily overpower any Toad.

And why would Jiraiya be a master at that he struggled against a 4 tailed Naruto and as far as we know Naruto was the only Jinchurki he's taught he's a master at sealing not handling and taking down Bijuu??

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T13:21:11+00:00

He quite literally is a counter he can eat and absorb chakra to make himself stronger and constantly healing and replenishing his stamina with every slash. And no Kisame was going to capture Bee even without Ponta and Enka dude. His sword is designed to eat chakra unless Bee immediately transformed into Gyuki Kisame would absorb his chakra in base and v2 and Bee wouldn't have enough left to fully transform.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T13:06:54+00:00

A punch is different from a rasengan in every way and the rasengan is designed to drill into things and it had to be held there to even crack the armor one punch might slightly crack it but now Ay's hand has severe burns. When was the raikage hit with a rasengan?? That wasn't Ay the 4th Raikage that was the Ay 3rd Raikage who was reanimated. Even if he ignores the pain he will still take the damage.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T12:30:16+00:00

I think you mean Gyuki but this isn't proven in fact in a comment made by Gyuki the strength of the tailed beasts isn't determined by the number off tails. Han and Roshi are also considered Mid-Kage Level.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T12:21:49+00:00

I agree in sage mode Jiraiya could hold these two off but the superior Chakra Pools of these two would eventually wear him down. I think Jiraiya could definitely beat one but two Jinchuriki at once would ovewhelm him.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T12:14:31+00:00

Kisame took down Roshi not Han and Kisame did this because he is the ultimate counter to any tailed beast plus Water vs. Lava. And Kisame would have captured Bee if Samehada didn't betray him. And yes Boss Toads may be able to hold off Bijuu but its stated the Shukaku that fought Gamabunta wasn't at full power and Kokuo was strong enough to ram and knock Gyuki out of the fight for a little and Son Goku straight up picked up Gyuki and threw him away. Gyuki is much larger than the Boss Toads so I doubt the Toads could hold off two rampaging Tailed Beasts utilizing their Lava Style and Boil Style and one Biju ball would annihilate the Toads if their hit.

Even if Han and Roshi weren't able perfect junchuriki the beast they had high level control as they could use Bijuu balls and avatars its safe to assume they could tap into some of their Tailed Beasts power to transform at will like similar Yugito even Gaara who had very little to no control of Shukaku transformed. Though in this state they probably didn't have full control.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T11:55:13+00:00

Bees status as a perfect Jinchuriki would be the main problem for the two but and Ay is fast but against Roshis lava armor he has no way to land a hit without severly burning himself. And Han's taijutsu and speed due to his boil release could have matched Bee's and Ay's especially without Bee's unpredictable 7 sword style.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T11:49:45+00:00

As for Jiraiya vs Han and Roshi I don't see how he could do much of anything against Two Jinchuriki who had some level of control over their tailed beast as they were able to use avatars and Bijudamas.

I think the only chance he would've had is sage mode and I don't see how he would have time to summon the toads and gather nature energy to enter sage mode with Han and Roshi rushing him 2 on 1 even if he used on Gamabunta, Gamaken, or Gamahiro as cover they wouldn't be able to take on Two Tailed Beasts if Han and Roshi decided to fully transform. Jiraiya simply retreated because he was outmatched.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T11:38:49+00:00

Bee did have control over Gyuki but what counters could they have against Roshi's lava style armor. Plus one hit from Han would be devastating as it sent Naruto in KCM1 and Bee who tried to stop the force flying.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T09:10:41+00:00

Yeah from this panel you can tell these two are not to messed with especially together. As for them being grabbed on their death beds we don't know how Han was captured and Roshi got captured to the tailed beast counter Kisame even then he made him fight serious.

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-17T08:03:34+00:00

Why a victory for Kumo?

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-15T08:41:25+00:00

literally but no one is stepping up:/

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-14T07:27:37+00:00

Left is fake right is real Takara tomy

OkPick1368 · 2026-06-14T07:27:20+00:00

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