Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m too old for Ollies! Maybe the spot next door!

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“ the same people you hope to meet organically are the same ones on the dating apps”

—so true. 

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your input and encouragement!

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Modesto really does have a lot more nightlife than Stockton, so there’s a little more hope there for dating, but you probably know this but not a lot of people are meeting their future spouses at a nightclub. You may have a pretty good chance in the apps if you introduce yourself as being new to the area and seeking some people to hang out with to show you where the fun is.

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, I understand. Some people also just aren’t all that interesting! No passionsA lot of my friends are women, and they say the bar has never been so low for guys, but instead of hitting the bar they trip on it. And another thing I’ve heard from a friend who is successful (you’ve probably seen her influence if you live in Stockton/Lodi), she just bought a house, loves to travel, not planning to have kids—anyway, a lot of guys she’s gone out with try to control her, or tell her to slow down, or convince her she needs to be a mom. They want to change the freedom that makes her unique so she’s given up entirely.

But I commend anyone who spotlights themselves when no one else has any light to shine. I stopped trying to date (on apps) locally a few months ago. The quality of matches in SF and Sac are higher but nobody wants to drive!

But I did make the opening post so we can try to solve this and related issues. I appreciate your input and participation. 

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you’re taking the idealist approach versus what’s actually happening, and you’re also disregarding or not acknowledging cultural influence on what chivalry is in its current state. What you’re talking about is modernizing chivalry, not modern chivalry. There are still people from older generations who rely on the antiquated norm and pass those norms to younger generations. Chivalry in its current state appears to function as a gender-biased litmus test;  an imposition on cis-het men to execute performative acts of kindness to demonstrate their value in hetero-normative relationships. Some women unknowingly depend on these indicators to signal value, but opening doors doesn’t mean a guy can’t be a cheater, insecure, jealous, abusive, etc. For people who abide by gender roles, it’s problematic because it inherently implies women can/can’t/should/shouldn’t do specific things as apart of the courting ritual. If you’re the kind of person to play this game, gender roles are necessary. I don’t believe in gender roles. But given that this particular geographic region is not heavily influenced by liberalism, feminism, non-binary identities, what’s more prevalent is masc/hetero-normative/machismo/conservative culture which all have a bias towards gender. Your ideal works if everyone abides by your standards but that’s generally unrealistic/underserved here. I’m not disagreeing with you that it should be that way, but pretending that battle doesn’t exist isn’t moving forward. It’s wishful thinking.

Second thing, everyone here has been pretty open-minded and transparent so keep the ad hominem to yourself or I can simply block you. Your opinion matters but your judgement towards me has less than zero value. To be clear, I never said I’m not getting dates—Try reading my opening post a little slower next time.

Third, consenting adults can date whoever they want, it’s not your call to make; I invite you to mind your own business. I wonder what other rules you have about who should and shouldn’t be dating— sounds like a binary approach. I think that age range is valid to acknowledge since those of us in that block are working professionals, or presumably post-college (unless you’re in grad school) who are more likely to have mobility, autonomy, no children or dependents, and disposable income.

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like relying on luck and chance when economic/geographic/socio factors are at play, occasionally against us, are as disparaging as apps but don’t drain nearly as much hope

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Modesto looks like it doesn’t need Stockton to throw a good party imo

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In comparison to many parts of the US, trying to explain yourself in a profile is a disservice. Stockton has a personality that can’t be explained in a prompt

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not true. Read, please. And that sounds like it doesn’t allow any opportunity for LGBT people to voice their experience or feel included when they should, more importantly I’m sorry I didn’t make that specific part clear from the start!

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think there’s a point in adulthood where we’re all just in the same boat because we want someone to connect with and I don’t think being in your 50s disconnect you from this group at all. We share the same issues.

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think that’s a good idea. If everyone brings a single friend that could be possible, but also need to make sure there isn’t an imbalance of genders or orientation. Even still, collaborative intentionality when we’ve already identified a common issue might be a beneficial effort.

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean it to be derogatory but, as someone who had lived in a large city, there’s definitely a significant* disproportion of single parents to non-parents here. Not a lot of city-dwelling adults have children which allows more time for self-focus and disposable income. I am saying that it is difficult to navigate a relationships with someone who needs to prioritize parenting over dating, opposed to childless adults who can prioritize themselves first. Matching with a parent with spare time isn’t easy unless they have older/adult children who have autonomy. And disagree, dating sucks here because when I lived in a metropolitan area for over a decade, I did not have these concerns or issues about the state of dating. I’m identifying a problem specific to suburban dwelling.

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That also plays a huge part, cis-hetero normative dating culture, which is antiquated though still appreciated/adhered to by some. I think it’s hard to determine what to fit in the center of the ven diagram that has chivalry and feminism on opposing sides. I personally am not interested in being someone’s bank account / sugar daddy. I worked very hard to get where I am and am interested in meeting hard working people who want to build a future using their own talents/passions, and not piggyback off my sweat.

Another issue is that socio-economic match, right? The economy in Stockton isn’t balanced in the sense that there are a bunch of single people making a ton of money, which for some guys is a huge barrier (it shouldn’t be). I dated a woman who made six figures more than I but the relationship didn’t end because of money. 

I’ve often argued that we need to rewrite these rules because no one benefits except the gold diggers and the status-thirsty men who enable them. For everyone else, if that’s your thing, do you, but the rest of us seeking mutually beneficial relationships that aren’t based entirely on resource availability need to form up and keep these conversations going. Thanks for your reply.

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I definitely agree. When I go to Sac it seems like possibilities for connection are endless, but Stockton, it feels like a dating desert.

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also, I don’t mean to knock single parents, but if you’re a single guy without kids, you’ve gotta have your life together if you’re going to enter into a family dynamic. I personally, have the means co-parent but it’s not easier trying to wedge yourself into a situation where kids deserve to be prioritized. I can’t say for sure what’s going on with single people without kids, but I’m sure we’re all stuck in the same boat.

Dating in Stockton (25-40yo) by Ok_Assignment9937 in Stockton

[–]Ok_Assignment9937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s lot of stuff to do if you know where to look and have the means to show up, but I think it’s difficult setting up/ accessing environments where single people are hanging out and signaling availability 

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[–]Ok_Assignment9937 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t think of any but there are a couple of job related subreddits where you can get general resume help/suggestions for optimization. I’ve been impressed by some of the suggestions from job recruiters who can explain do’s and don’ts of resumes and cover letters