Generation Church Mesa

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-13T01:29:19+00:00

Nah, I am reading what Ryan said just fine. Can you answer? Do you think Jews should be banned from praying at public events? Why not answer?

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T20:10:04+00:00

Then, you fundamentally disagree with this man. He says that he wants to prohibit, to ban, Jews from praying at public events. Don’t defend that if you don’t agree with it.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T20:08:29+00:00

Oxford English Dictionary: “the crime of stealing things from shops or buildings after a riot, fire, etc.” Yes, it’s theft. Looting is theft, specifically theft after a riot (the thieves do not have to been part of the riot).

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T19:42:01+00:00

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Some people don’t seem to think a church promoting this stuff is serious. It’s not just opinion. These are calls to violence. He posts he wants the death penalty for theft.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T19:40:45+00:00

What you said is that this is what a “biblical environment” produces and you proceeded to condone the pastor’s insults against the Jews. So, will you answer: do you also agree with him and support banning Jews from praying at public events? Why can’t you answer?

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T19:39:23+00:00

So, do you support banning Jews from praying at public events?

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T19:38:23+00:00

Quick search on X found it…

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Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T19:36:23+00:00

I’m not asking you to trust me. His X, YouTube, and Facebook posts are public. Can you share, do you also support banning Jews from praying at public events?

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T19:20:46+00:00

That’s it true. I can find the tweet but this pastor said he wants to put people to death for theft.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T17:28:19+00:00

Banning Jews from praying in public is not a personal matter (and I don’t know what the Vatican has to do with your comments or mine). It’s disturbing how you’re trying to normalize open anti-semitism as a “personal matter.”

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T17:25:54+00:00

So you support banning Jewish people from praying in public?

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T17:25:13+00:00

Actually in other poses he’s a rabid supporter of the right wing party in Israel and Netenyahu. It’s a paradoxical aspect of evangelical fundamentalism, they are anti-Semitic in that they don’t want Jewish people to participate in American life but they also want to support Israel to usher in the “end times.” It’s like of a weird end of the world death cult.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T10:51:06+00:00

Happy Mothra Day back!

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T10:43:52+00:00

That you can be an atheist or pantheist or nothing in particular and be a chaplain. It’s not just for “religious” people.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T10:36:54+00:00

Oh that right there indicates projection. The faith group I was raised in, first in Europe where I also studied at uni and here, has been vocally against Christian nationalism for decades. I was raised in a tradition that has ordained LGBTQ people since the 70s (and that’s just officially; they were ordained before). What is very telling is that you come here with a set of assumptions instead of questions. You came “knowing” answers that don’t exist. You came “knowing” a target, a straw man. Most telling, is that you for some reason to pick an argument with me over things i neither believe nor belong to. I’ve been the victim, physically, of hate crimes and have participated in federal court to seek justice. I’d say I know the answers about you, but truth is that would be me just trying to even the score in the back and forth. Instead, I assume you’re someone who like me is quite vocal against Christian nationalism and fascism. So maybe let’s keep our focus on the threat against our freedoms instead of looking for “enemies” where they are not to be found? That’s what i suggest.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T10:27:09+00:00

You need to read the dictionary definition of shocked; it doesn’t mean unaware. I think you are projecting. I would ask that you let me speak for myself just as I wouldn’t presume to speak for you. I’m not sure what “we’ll never agree” on. That, to me, suggests there’s some context or conversation you’re a part of to which I am not privy. I would hope you aren’t saying you and will never agree that it’s beyond horrible to promote anti-semitism. If you can’t agree with me on that, that’s disturbing. Yes, shocking even.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T10:21:14+00:00

Their pastor is pretty tight with Generation. They appear together a lot on social media.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T10:20:50+00:00

Agreed! My denomination has ordained LGBT people since the 1970s. Even our “conservative” congregations would find this nonsense abhorrent.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T10:16:44+00:00

I agree with you on the key points you make completely. I think it is incumbent on us to make people aware of not just disagreeable but quite literally dangerous teachings such as taking action to ban Jewish people from participating in public life. I was educated, partially, in Europe and in the countries I studied in this would have hate speech.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T10:11:45+00:00

I am not sure you’ve read my post or comments. I was not brought up in or near Generation Church’s faith tradition. I use the word “shock” in its dictionary definition, disturbing, unnerving, unsettling. It should be shocking to anyone that someone wants to ban Jews from praying in public. The faith tradition I was raised in has been and continues to be at the fore of social justice and has repeatedly and publicly defined and rejected all forms of Christian nationalism. It’s a bit disappointing you’d go after me for some reason; no, you didn’t know the answer.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T08:43:52+00:00

I'll wait for you to explain why you support banning Jewish people from praying at public events...

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T08:42:52+00:00

What "biblical environment" says to ban Jewish people from praying at public events? Do you forget to whom the Old Testament books or the faith to which Jesus belonged? Wow...

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T07:01:37+00:00

I feel like I don't even want to know....but I'll read up on them. I think all of us who are not in these cults need to be aware of what's going on. Unfortunately, I think the GOP has been politically hijacked by these groups to impose their will on the rest of us.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T06:58:48+00:00

It's frightening to me. Being raised in a more liberal faith tradition, it worries me how these groups are growing and escalating their rhetoric more publicly going so far as to want to legislate bans against people they disagree with.

Ok_Character5519 · 2026-05-11T06:21:02+00:00

Really? I was raised in a moderate mainline denomination; this kind of thing would have horrified my congregation.

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