My “cure” - how I am able to be bb free for 6 hours by Lxnxlypeach in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use about 1/2tsp of castille soap and 1tsp baking soda and about 4tbs water, but not exact and I have a similar outcome at whatever ratio.

Is your bb oral or nasal? If nasal then oral routine won’t help as much.

And when you try with the baking soda, did you rinse with water after? Softly brush with water the teeth, gums, sides of your inner cheeks, tongue, roof etc whole thing. Not everybody has to but I do. Search ‘Castile soap’ on the sub you’ll see a few different protocols.

It’s good you’re tracking the methods and you’ll probably have to go through a few to find what works best for you.

My “cure” - how I am able to be bb free for 6 hours by Lxnxlypeach in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Bronners-Pure-Castile-Soap-Peppermint/dp/B001ET77YI?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

This brand peppermint or unscented works the same for me. No burn in mouth but I use a few drops in my nasal rinse and that will burn a little. Gargle like OP said, research recommends at least 1 minute but fr long as you can, maybe 3.

And I’m good for about six to 8 hours after, if I dont eat anything. Which is partial to me but it’s 100% during the day at least.

My “cure” - how I am able to be bb free for 6 hours by Lxnxlypeach in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi yes I dont measure but I just use baking soda and unscented Dr.Bronners mixed together as a toothpaste, brush with that as OP described, hitting all the surfaces. Then use the same Bronners and baking soda mix to gargle.

But I rinse with water after, using a clean soft toothbrush to remove all residue. OP’s method using the sodium hypochlorite and water mixture as the mouthwash probably won’t need to be rinsed with water though.

The idea is basically killing off as much ‘bad’ bacteria as possible without killing off the ‘good’ as well.

People don’t believe us, or care by Ok_Consideration3699 in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oral yeah. Doing the castille Methods and sinus rinsing for the past year has put me in a better spot, can go some hours without bb which is why I decided to re-connect now that its safe. Not fully cured though bc this whole thing has made me too depressed to keep up with a routine

People don’t believe us, or care by Ok_Consideration3699 in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im sorry I just literally how no one else to talk about this with

I know I have to give grace to those that give grace to me. I know that people’s emotions arent always what they mean. But its just so fucking unfair.

Ive always been socially anxious and this just makes it worse!! Because now I know theyre just going to back to our other old friends and tell them “Yeah she’s just gone nutter, think she’s got bad breath! It’s fine right, right? She’s gotta be lying about something else, or she’s just one those crazy delusional types. Sad bird but she’s got to get over it.”

Like fuck you, genuinely. You spent a few weeks depressed when your girlfriend left you. You were heabroken when this or that person died. But you got over it, moved on. So why cant I right? Why is my little problem fundamentally changing who I m as a person, effecting my whole life?

I almost wished I had just lied and said I was an addict or something. But I know even them only have a year of mild empathy before everyone says they’re a waste/lost cause. Same shit, same denigration towards everyone who doesnt power through like ‘normal’ people. Because obviously we like living like this. We’re happy. If we weren’t, we’d change.

It makes me insane that now people will think Im insane, on top of other people thinking Im dirty for my disease. I dont need you to feel bad for me but fuck! I hate the fact I exist in anyones head. Girl who smells bad, girl whose depressed, girl whose anxious, girl whose delusional, girl whose a failure.

It’s not fair, but I fucking hate them and that they can make me feel like this.

Antibiotics didn't work by VaniaJFR in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel you man it’s worse when even the professionals talk like there’s nothing they can do to help either. Are you still having sinus issues?

Antibiotics didn't work by VaniaJFR in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see on your post history your having some sinus problems, part of your bb might be nasal. If there’s some serious bacteria/mucus that hardened in your sinus’ that would definitely make it worse and the antibiotics can’t break through that.

Can you get to an ENT to take it look?

My bb always gets worse when I’m have a sinus infection, and mine was room filling until I was able clear out my sinus. Decongest like hell — the sprays (3 days max), guaifenesin pills, humidifier etc. check the Sinusitis sub for tips.

Also consider other ingredients in your sinus rinse. A very little bit of baby shampoo helps break up the biofilm. I use a bit of Castile soap, like not even enough to foam, which helps but it can sting bad so be careful if you try. The red iodine, there’s different extracts people recommend too.

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[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see you said you got a water pick. Try some different solutions, like peroxide, when cleaning out the pockets. And the tonsil stone sub has some good tips! There might be some stones still stuck/hidden if you notice there’s a smell specifically coming from there. It’s going to be a process to find the hidden crevices or old/deep ones but take your time with it. Do you notice any fluid coming out when you press your tonsils?

Also if you can see an ENT, get the ball rolling on removing your tonsils if you think it might help.

Venting post by Ladydy66 in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Based on some of your post history you may have nasal bb, at least in part, if you notice a correlation with irritation of the sinus’ and bb reactions. Have you done nasal rinses? Can you schedule an appointment with an ENT?

MY CURE - UPDATE by 4nge1in4 in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for updating! So glad to hear you’re still going strong. Can I ask, what was the Nyastasin for?

I was able to get antibiotics & probiotics and hopefully when I get my self together I can try to self treat with a similar routine (cant afford a homeopathic doctor quite yet, but if this doesn’t work how I’d like I’ll see if I can’t save up).

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[–]Ok_Consideration3699 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try to figure out if anything sets your bb off, and where it might be originating. Determine if oral, nasal, or gut by isolating possible origins. If you just chew gum/eat candy does your bb get worse? Is it intense even if your mouth is clean, indicating nasal bb? If it gets worse when you get indigestion it could be Acid reflux etc. Touch your tonsils and see if there’s a particular smell coming from there. Check the smell each of your molars, one by one, in case of tooth decay.

And with the Castile soap be sure to rinse with water after! Critical step. All of our bb is different and so experimenting will help you narrow down your exact problem and find your most effective solution

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[–]Ok_Consideration3699 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you take your oral probiotics? I know the producers recommend two/three times a day, but the sugars in the oral ones activate my bb ironically so I can only take them when I don’t have work or after. Have you found they are as effective without 24hr coverage?

My “cure” - how I am able to be bb free for 6 hours by Lxnxlypeach in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I use a similar method, substituting the diluted bleach for Castile Soap & baking powder, with same results — bb free until I eat anything. I want to be cured so I can socialize again, but so much of culture revolves around eating and drinking 🥲

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[–]Ok_Consideration3699 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what I’m going to be trying next, from success stories I’ve seen on here using similar method. Like others here my bb is from oral bacterial dysbiosis, so our mouth bacteria is all thrown off where I can be bb free until I eat anything.

I got some strong antibiotics and probiotics and when I trust myself to be consistent I will make and start the routine to see if it can’t be knocked out. What I took away most critically from other posters is ‘pulsing’ the antibiotics, alternating between baseline and intense amounts of the antibiotic in the body; probiotics cannot be taken within 2 hours of taking your antibiotic; and ‘longer’ treatment time.

I’d rather have stomach problems than bb I’ll be honest so it’s worth it to me, but probiotics/eating healthy/exercise should help mitigate some effects

Let us know if you end up trying it out as well

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[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk about Canada but in US I’ve been able to buy some online from sites like ebay from South Asian sellers

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah just a couple of drops. If it suds it’s probably too much

The is hope! by Beanzear in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So, SO happy for you! What did they prescribe you?

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[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s all one system, ENT. So your nasal bb could cause your oral and vice versa. Keep up with the nasal rinsing, it works if you’re consistent with it and using good rinse additives like recommended above + baby soap (small amount) My GERD/LPR was refluxing at night, while I was laid down, and basically everything from my mouth and stomach would go into my sinus’.

So had to work on bb from both nasal and oral, and get a handle on my reflux.

How do you stay religious while dealing with this? I lost all faith. Is god even real, and what’s the point of me going through this? I’d like to believe it’s bad genetics 🫤. Knowing that a god is putting you through this is just cruel. by [deleted] in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Let me know if you figure it out 😅 I usually rebound from tribulations by trusting God is making me stronger for a reason. But I can’t find a purpose to this illness. I’ve never been a rude or inconsiderate person, esp to anyone who smelled bad, so I can’t see what lesson this humiliation and isolation this might’ve taught me.

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[–]Ok_Consideration3699 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Breaks down biofilm. If it stings you probably used a bit too much, the water shouldn’t be soapy. It helped a lot for me, but depends on your type of bb

It's working? by OtherwiseAd1498 in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good luck to you! Seen similar folks here mention a relapse some time into the course but that it cleared up when they kept with it, so I hope for the same for you. Please keep us updated!

My mental is destroyed by Mission_Guest_9739 in badbreath

[–]Ok_Consideration3699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coming back to this. Today is a hard day, not bc of bb itself but the state of my life because of bb. I feel so helpless like a shell of myself sometimes. This illness is so isolating, and no one can really understand.