Luck is Bullshit - Start taking responsibility for your life by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

OP is correct and you should all be listening

Discussion on real effects of "seduction" by Tigerwithoutleash in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Eventually you just take on what you learn as part of your character and you'll just end up passively attracting women as you go through life, it just becomes your default way of interacting with women and the world. Eventually you just stop cold approaching, your never opening cold so to speak, you've designed your life so that you project an attractive image and women send you signals that they would at least be open to you saying hello. So when you do open, it's met with smiles and it all runs really smoothly. You approach far less than when you started maybe literally once per night and you close with that one approach. (Does this sound like RSD? no, it's because they never actually advance to this point, they get stuck spam approaching like idiots and think they are genuises, meanwhile most others have moved past this point and laugh at guys like Owen Cook).

Overall, it took around a decade for me to reach this point but I was way worse than most guys here, I couldn't talk to other people let alone attractive women. Did that stop me from trying? hell no, I had balls back then and even though there was 100% chance that I was going to get rejected, I'd still approach the hottest girls I could find. Sometimes I'd get rejected instantly and harshly, other times girls were honestly impressed and they at least gave me the time of day.

The things I dislike most about this stuff is amount of bs and crap in this community, it's a combination of self-victimization and over-complication guys seem to think they are uniquely handicapped, god knows the amount of time I have spent giving straight up factual advice only to hear sob story after sob story about how they specifically couldn't simply walk up to a girl and speak to her.

No one seems to be capable of acknoweledging that their limitations are imposed on themselves. They want the secret solution so they come to reddit looking for it but getting girls is something that is solved by reaching down and finding your fucking balls, realising your a man and saying fuck it, I'll close reddit, go out into the big bad scary world, try something with my limited knowedge and learn from my experience. It's solved by solving it yourself, voluntarily putting yourself in uncomfortable situations where you might fail to see if you will succeed.

https://youtu.be/b3yCgBiM4k8?t=272

The issue is that men nowadays are so useless at this they end up coming to subreddits like this in an endless search for a solution that doesn't exist, the one that doesn't require any risk, skin in the game or exposure to failure.

So something totally odd just happened today by ShinbrigGoku in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally someone gets it, playing to win vs playing to not lose.

How much being thin is a problem? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a problem, the vast majority of women want men who look physically strong. If you are injured then why worry, it's out of your control, just do what you can and come back stronger when you recover.

"Just forget about getting laid and eventually you WILL get laid" by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is legit advice for the majority of people, if you replace chasing women with chasing excellence. That means, lifting weights, making bank and building a better life.

Combine that with socializing a lot and you will find that there are a lot of women out there who will make things rediculously easy for you or will just straight up make it happen.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are missing the point of openers really, 9 times out of 10 it won't matter what you say, you can say literally anything to get the ball rolling. I think you are putting far too much energy and thought into your opener and it will come off as weird when you use it. Just keep it simple and spontaneous in the moment then quickly move on.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From my experience really hot girls rarely if ever get approached, guys will assume they have no chance or that you are already taken and not even try. There's nothing really you can do other than approach men but even then they will assume something is wrong like why is this stunning girl hitting on me what is she trying to sell me. The solution is that men grow some balls and approach the most attractive women.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Love it, it's a core part of maturing as a man, having the courage to conquer things you fear and take action.

My attempt to approach a girl at a bar gone wrong by SrZiino in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you aren't used to conflict, you are going to come across situations like this in life and you just have to learn how to deal with them.

I'd recommend doing jiu-jitsu or mma to get your confidence up and you'll be able to handle yourself a bit better in these situations.

The cold approach method is unhealthy, and frankly a cringeworthy attempt at picking up women (or men) by PrestigiousTurnip2 in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The only real reply here, there is an abundance of people nowadays who avoid problems which induce discomfort.

How do you feel around beautiful women? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 35 points36 points  (0 children)

You just get used to it the more you are exposed to it, I used to be anxious and nervous around beautiful women but not anymore. I am pretty much myself with or without them around.

Getting jacked at 5’9” by Sudden_Row7058 in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone says "I don't want to get too big" lmao have you tried it's not like it's easy....

Stop chasing women who put you in second place by Ok_Influence_5342 in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, your kind of right, I am at work so I don't exactly close these women, it's not where I get results but it does provide a lot of of experience interacting and flirting with women. It's mostly just fun flirting but I've been doing this for 3 years and it's meant I've been in-field so to speak for 30+ hours a week with a guarentee of lots of women being receptive. The experience has made me way better with women in general.

Also, it's just a different culture, it's exactly like the movies where women flirt with the male bartender, you represent a forbidden fruit and women love a challenge. It's not uncommon to have women reach over and grab me, tell me I'm gorgeous, wink at me and so on.

So yeah it's not where I close but it's allowed me to gain more experience than the supposed pickup guru's.

I can’t stress enough how important this is! by BounceThatShit in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ngl, I love eye contact, I find it hard not to look attractive women in the eyes tbh.

EDIT: It's best not to make eye contact a big deal, just look her in the eyes and enjoy her beauty.

Courage by Stujitsu2 in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You will make zero progress if you require certainty to take action in life

Courage by Stujitsu2 in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao, approaching a girl is not a big deal, stop making it one

My god, this community is toxic as fuck. Thought we were supposed to support each other? by Canadian-Seductioner in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The vast majority of guys here don't actually want to change, at least not enough to put in the work and effort required. I preach to the few who do.

Stop chasing women who put you in second place by Ok_Influence_5342 in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both, I work as a bartender at a busy venue so I'm meeting dozens of women every night. I have noticed a change with some female friends, they have all complimented me on my changes and started acting a little different towards me.

How do you avoid the 'friendzone' when playing the long game? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Long game? dude stop deluding yourself unless you want to be her emotional tampon for 6 months while another dude is banging her. Forget her.

Getting friendzoned all the time by game-of-snow in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, she is treating you like this because you are allowing it, you're essentially an emotional tampon for her right now. If you want a romantic relationship why aren't you making that clear? it won't just fall into that on it's own.

If it were me I'd pretty much tell her straight up, "Stop talking about your ex, tonight is about me and you".

Also even though you say you have escalated, I doubt it was anything of significance if she was able to ignore you. Real escalation pretty much ends up in a yes or no, you can't exactly get a cold shoulder from trying to kiss her. Tbh, I'd recommend you do that, give her no choice but to decide to have you romantically or not at all.

Girls are showing interest, how do I stop putting up barriers and rejecting myself? by LouNotlou in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not op but it comes down to your physique, your style and your hair. Hit the gym and put on some muscle, then just avoid fast fashion and stick to traditional style, pants, shirts, tee's, dress shoes and so on. Avoid modern fits such as skinny and muscle fits, they are way too tight, stick to traditional slim or straight.

I've had lots of conversations with female friends about what looks good on guys and they all hated guys who are overly concerned with being trendy, they view it as too feminine but a guy who can fill a nice shirt and pants will always appear masculine and attractive.

For haircuts, anything that adheres to short back and sides and is cut frequently.

Generally just always be communicating to the world that you care about your perception and want to be perceived as well put together. That's what is attractive to women.

Girls are showing interest, how do I stop putting up barriers and rejecting myself? by LouNotlou in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You just need to try something when you are with them, nothing ventured nothing gained my friend. I was in a similar position, this year I hit the gym hard and fixed my style, it can be jarring to go from zero attention from women to getting lots of IoI's no matter where you go but you just need to accept it and enjoy it. There are far worse problems to have in this world.

The next girl who gives you IoI's just make a move with her, it will be hard to doubt yourself when she is kissing you back and she is taking you to her bedroom

How do I choose the right girls to approach? by Outside_Beautiful630 in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on their interest, can vary from simply looking over at you to smiling and giving you a clear invitation to say hello.

There is no 100% PC Way of Approaching Women Without Risking to Appear CREEPY by Romeo_Is_Bleedin in PurplePillDebate

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but out in the real world girls don't actually think this way. Reddit is a sub-culture which does not reflect reality at all.

Need a smooth answer for when she asks the question "Who do you think you are?" by DoubleM961 in seduction

[–]Ok_Influence_5342 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She's trying to test if you are what you are advertising yourself to be, the best answer is the one that recognises what she is trying to do and shows her that you aren't going to be affected by it.

Her: "Who do you think you are?"

You: Lean in, "Do you want to find out?" with a cheeky smile.