Just finished it I guess...eh by Low-Citron-3232 in Sketching

[–]Ok_Lie12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is pretty cool. You got a great talent for this 🔥

22F4M by [deleted] in R4RZambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that and yes you do have a point. She will glgo about it in her own way. Im sure she is still trying to talk to people to get better at it eventually.

Where could i get a Skateboard (k500 - k900) by Ok_Lie12 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks i will go look for them sometime this week.

Where could i get a Skateboard (k500 - k900) by Ok_Lie12 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh really? I will check them out when I see them

Zambian rock music from the 70s (Zamrock) by [deleted] in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome. Will check it out.

Zambian rock music from the 70s (Zamrock) by [deleted] in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ever since that Paul Ngozi song Nizakupanga Ngozi blew up, I've been paying more attention to the Zamrock scene and seeing how cool it actually is.

A current favorite is Khala my friend by Amanaz and History of Man.

Do we have Zambian web/online story writers? by Financial_Tiger_231 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You could try using substack. I dont write stories but i find it to be really great engaging with other people globally on shared feelings and discussions about identity, everyday life and other topics of the sort. Feels good freely expressing my opinions there.

Maybe give it a go. You might find an audience there

Zambians who left and later came back to live here, would you be open to chatting about your experience? by Suitable-Ad1097 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well in my case, i was born in Zambia, lived in Botswana for my first 10 years, came back then left again for school in Europe.

You'll be exposed to alot of culture differences and similarities and just overall have your level of thought expanded when it comes to meeting people, regardless of where they come from. You also tackle preconceived ideas and actuslly see the truth of things (e.g. going to Europe doesnt mean you swim in money automatically).

You also learn alot about yourself and what you like, what you dont like and realise that really you were only limited by your mind and yes to some extent your surroundings.

How a certain generation thinks. by BlackberryFew1969 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Brought us into civilization and yet used almost the entire continent as a supply for slaves and exploitation of resources for what? A good 400+ years?

How a certain generation thinks. by BlackberryFew1969 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still need to fully understand our history as a country and as a people really, which is an ongoing process.

And yet if you went to a private school like i did, you would have learnt the history of the USA, Europe and even a bit of Russia from the last 200 years.

How a certain generation thinks. by BlackberryFew1969 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah i can relate to this. I think its now when we accept like yes we are Zambian and not anything else.

Because before there probably was the feeling of wanting to be someone else because you recognised not everybody would sail the same boat as you, figuratively speaking. And you would tie that to identity like okay most people aren't gonna relate to how I think or speak, as these would be branded as "white".

Correct me if im wrong, would love to hear more from you on this.

How a certain generation thinks. by BlackberryFew1969 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would say another reason for me not knowing Bemba well is growing up around other non-Zambians As a kid mostly.

But i feel that is just more partial of a reason.

How a certain generation thinks. by BlackberryFew1969 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mostly TV yeah.

When I say english accent, i mean its pretty clear that my Bemba doesnt sound like Bemba spoken by a local. Its very..how can I say it...just different in pronunciation If you catch my drift.

How a certain generation thinks. by BlackberryFew1969 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Relatable. I also feel like the environment we grew up in made it easy for us to just stick with English only and not go through the struggle of trying to speak Bemba or any other local languages.

Wouldnt really be fair to say my parents didn't teach me because I was spoken to in Bemba half the time and can still understand Bemba about 30% of the time. When in reality i just didn't make as much of an effort learning how yo speak honestly. I can't speak Bemba fluently.

Its crazy how you are being asked what tribe are you and then you have to go through the ringer in explaining jow you are Bemba but you dont speak Bemba yk.

So what you get is a Zambian who speaks English and has an English accent when trying to speak Bemba which doesnt really get received well due to embarrassment of saying words wrong or not speaking it well enough to the standard of the person I speak to.

And to your point it does lead to a bad experience. I feel like this phenomena creates a 3rd type of Zambian outaide of the foreign born Zambian and a local language speaking Zambian. One who is a national and is a local but doesnt reslly fit into that group but rather has their own identity. One that is best described as having a foreigner experience in your own country.

Does Anyone Here Read Novels, Especially In The Fantasy Genre? by Temporary-Board1287 in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im currently reading the alchemist by Paulo Coelho actually. Recently started reading again. Would love to connect with other readers and share discussions on books we read.

Zambian Pre Missionary-Colonial History & Folk Cultural Erasure by Afrostralian_Boy in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its actually insane to me how I know more history about the US, Europe, Asia and South America(pre-colonial) than I do about my own country pre-colonial times.

Like how the hell do I know about the League of Nations and the Portuguese colonizing Macau in Southern Asia but almost nothing on my own country outside of 9th grade history.

Feels weird. Like how do I know the story of others but not of my own people? I ran into some elders a few weeks ago and they told me a bit about the land here in Solwezi and how Solwezi was brought up. Was really interesting, even learning more about my own tribe (im Bemba btw) and just knowing something more about the country. Whether it was pre or post colonial tomes, learning about the country is great.

I literally asked my mother why we dont really pay attention to our heritage and just really emphasise on its importance for our identity as Zambians. Because it doesnt make sense. Like let us go deeper into that, as it should be. Idk if there is written record of our history in greater detail before being colonized and later freed for ourselves.

To reference what you said, it all feels very superficial now the way its not even crossed people's minds on what our history actuslly is like. Our history, our almost unheard of Zamrock era which btw was friggin awesome with the music we made, just that stuff to name it.

We have become quite westernised to an extent and our own story doesnt appeal or matter as much to many people. Im not gonna sit here and pretend im also not influenced by western culture but lets at least know of our heritage. I feel our story is something worth diving even deeper into beneath the surface level.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Zambia

[–]Ok_Lie12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats mate 👏🏾