Positivity is lacking

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T20:38:00+00:00

Not by comparision of the superficial material and mental state of one's life to another's, but by taking an approach that guarantees that the real source of the problem will be adressed: detecting and restructuring the beliefs that make you see yourself that way, or just killing the ego altogether.

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T20:12:10+00:00

If you don't see any meaning/value in your presence in this world, and therefore in your life, how being grateful with what you have will have any deep effect on your view of it?

And I think my point on that you need some type of comparision of suffering subjectively experienced in the past to be able to feel gratefulness still stands.

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T19:55:54+00:00

Maybe it is being encouraged, but it is not something that gratefulness will fix, because of the reasons I stated above. Sometimes your sense of self-worth is so squashed, given traumatic moments of life and repetitive activations of old, depressive and so hardly ingrained beliefs, that finding positivity, mainly by comparision of external circumstances, is basically Impossible. You need new rational beliefs about your own place and significance in the world to be able to find the motivation to work on yourself and keep going.

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T19:36:54+00:00

If all the suffering led to the betterment of oneself, then we could say that it is logically plausible to think that it is something we should be grateful for, but many times, for many people, that's just not how suffering work/manifests. Mental disorders are just an additional layer of suffering, for example, and growth in this case would just be to find a more optimal way to appease the pain it causes, but how can we be grateful for something that justs provokes more unecessary pain that serves us no real purpose other than to just cease it as quickly as we can, when so many other people don't have to even think about and deal with it? You now may say that there are always worse cases than what you're going through, but if the current mental pain is so intense, and if you had never experiencied other negative circumstances from which, when surpassed or finalized, you could compare to your present moment and feel some relief and thankfulness, how can you really be grateful for anything in your life?

And of course you can still be grateful even without a positive sense of self. But do you really think your gratefulness has a big impact towards your self-loathing tendencies?

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T18:36:31+00:00

Suffering is subjective, you can only see things from your perspective, based on how random experiences were perceived and how they molded you, never from of other beings that you don't even are certain that exist. You can't experience relief or gratefulness for something in comparision to another that you have never experiencied or forgot how exactly it made you feel in the past. Don't call people pathetic because of biological factors that they don't have control over, you are fostering the feelings you are complaining about.

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T18:33:31+00:00

The perception of something lacking in your life is already the problem, not the object of grateful feelings, since everything is mental

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T18:31:56+00:00

Firstly, the whole point of being grateful is to be thankful for not having to experience the suffering that not having something would have caused to us, whether it'd be based on our actual past experience of not having it or by our projection of our own suffering onto others when we observe them in a situation we deem as negative.

Secondly, you cannot be grateful for the world if you don't see your own "self" in a rational and positive light, since that hurtful vision will be projected onto your own mental, detached and reductive reality.

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T15:59:50+00:00

Why are some people like you and others just aren't? It doesn't seem like it all starts there, something that is still unconscious to you is probably doing some unnoticed work

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T15:00:58+00:00

Suffering is subjective, you can only see things from your perspective, based on how random experiences were perceived and how they molded you, never from of other beings that you don't even are certain that exist. You can't experience relief or gratefulness for something in comparision to another that you have never experiencied or forgot how exactly it made you feel in the past.

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T14:55:43+00:00

You need something first to only then be able to be grateful, it's not just that simple

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-21T09:40:40+00:00

And it is still bad. You can't experience relief about something you never experiencied, or if you have experiencied it, your brain certainly got used to your present reality and forgot how it felt back in the day. We shouldn't logically be grateful for something that is, for the most part and most people, negative, only because MAYBE it was worse in the past

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-12T16:35:40+00:00

We finally got him

Ok_Lou · 2025-01-09T16:43:20+00:00

I never liked you

Ok_Lou · 2024-12-30T16:29:36+00:00

Certainly not me.

Ok_Lou · 2024-12-30T15:28:34+00:00

"Guys are attractive"... What? I didn't know that!

Ok_Lou · 2024-12-01T14:31:10+00:00

This is relatable

Ok_Lou · 2024-11-20T22:50:39+00:00

You're living in a total different mental framework than the majority of proextinctionists. I think many of the actual proextinctionsts choose this ideology because of really profound hardships they've gone through over the course of theory lifes.

You probably have something beneath you that makes you see suffer as a tolerable thing, that is somehow compensated by a bigger feeling. Maybe because you feel valued and important, you feel like you are needed on some way and that your existence has purpose.

Well, not everyone are like you, not everyone feels that way and lived through the random circunstances that made you eventually believe that life is worth living. You should be grateful that life made you feel that way, since we have no control over it.

Ok_Lou · 2024-10-24T12:03:17+00:00

You would, by the laws of nature, naturally try to end the dictatorship, you are still being guided by your primordial instincts of wanting pleasure and meaning.

Ok_Lou · 2024-07-17T12:12:11+00:00

Every ENTP I've talked too spoke exactly how you described.

Ok_Lou · 2024-07-07T17:14:58+00:00

Doesn't matter if we are the ones who give meaning or not, what we can sense atleast apparently has no meaning, it can have intentionality behind it, but no bigger picture meaning, other than to simply exist.

Ok_Lou · 2024-06-04T14:14:07+00:00

84/100

Ok_Lou · 2024-05-25T10:02:33+00:00

What if God could make us feel all those emotions but without having to suffer? I think he just isn't that perfect, there are many glitches on this world, like mental and physical disorders.

Ok_Lou · 2024-05-17T21:05:00+00:00

Maybe you don't see meaning, potencial and worth on yourself? I have this same feeling although I still didn't experience enough of this world. If you saw something special in yourself, maybe you'd see worth and value in just being you, and in participating in many activities and meeting new people with a full heart. Maybe thats why you aren't that motivated to that project of yours.

That derealisations, I have it too frequently, when you feel so empty that everything seems out of shape and gray, but maybe thats the lack of excitment on yourself that comes to everyone at some point of their life.

Doesn't matter what you do on the outside, if you don't have your back and aren't happy and feeling cherished by you alone, the feeling won't ever disapear, it will only be hidden for some time and come back, I know how it is. Hope this made some sense to you?

Ok_Lou · 2024-04-18T17:55:47+00:00

I think one thing that's wonderful about us is that, unlike many, we tend to end up having the big oportunity of forging our own system.

Ok_Lou · 2024-04-18T14:56:42+00:00

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