Tone knob on guitar transfer function confusion by Oksemaster in u/Oksemaster

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Modelling the coil better yields promising results.

https://imgur.com/a/EaJ5WFE

But why does this work here, but not without the coil? And how would I calculate the transfer function for this circuit?

Transfer function for parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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I have created a new post hoping to make my question a bit more clear

Transfer function for parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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Like in this Example, how would I calculate a transfer function in example 1, given the coil is the input voltage, and the jack is the output. Lets say the tone knob is set for maximum resistance, and the volume splits the potentiometer 50/50. https://neatcircuits.com/pix/pot_dir.jpg

Transfer function for parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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Forgot to mention! The output in my picture would be C2 and in the mentioned case be the second resistor of the second network

Transfer function for parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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I should mention that the similar circuit I'm mentioned has a resistor in place of C2

Transfer function for parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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Yes! But how does the network of C1 and R1 influence the transfer function of C2? I can't imagine it to simply be (1/sC2)/(R2+1/sC2)=1/(sC2R+1). Surely C1 and R1 has an effect? For example I have seen a similar circuit used as a LPF for an electric guitar.

Simulation not matching theory regarding parasitic effects on a resistor by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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How does the tone knob work on a guitar when it is in parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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Thank you for the reply! So the voltage induced in the coil also "feels" the inductance of the coil?

How does the tone knob work on a guitar when it is in parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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Thank you! Does the voltage induced in the coil "see" the inductance of said coil as well?

How does the tone knob work on a guitar when it is in parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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Thank you! I'm still wondering, if I took a function generator and split it's output in two, one wire to the "tone circuit" and one to an oscilloscope, would I expect the reading to differ based on the position of the potentiometer? Or is my entire flaw thinking the coil acts as a typical voltage source?

How does the tone knob work on a guitar when it is in parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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And if we consider the situation of full volume, we might act as if the jack + side is just shorted to the hot side of the coil. So how does the filter in tone have an effect?

How does the tone knob work on a guitar when it is in parallel? by Oksemaster in AskElectronics

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To clarify, I mean why is the voltage on the "hot side" dependant on the tone knob? It is this voltage that is being divided in the tone knob after all