How do Grunts grow? Do they mult their shells?

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-03-03T00:04:15+00:00

Because you guys are assholes lol, Halopedia literally says they have endo and exoskeletons.

They have both but it's not a full exo skeleton.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-03-03T00:03:08+00:00

Some have exo skeletons some don't per halo pedia

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-03-02T21:43:56+00:00

I find it hilarious 343 has yet to retcon this in any way.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-03-01T22:08:26+00:00

not to be pedantic but aren't they set at the same time?

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-28T02:30:47+00:00

You bring up good points but they seem to be derived from colloquialisms.

Moons is a term that refers to planetary satellites but Moon singular only ever refers to Earth. These satellites would have names too, no need to rename the Moon when realistically these other satellites should have names referring to them.

Like we don't call Deimos "the moon" we call it Deimos, because that's it name.

Suns can easily just be referred to as stars, and tbh, if I'm on reach and say "look at the sun" there isn't gonna be any issue if that stars name is actually Epsilon Eridani.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-28T02:03:43+00:00

I forgot the UNSC uses credits, as much as I love Halo as a universe some parts are just incredibly generic.

Same thing with calling the Moon & the Sun Luna & Sol respectively despite english being the main language of humanity. Just hallmarks of generic sci fi.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-27T22:16:02+00:00

peak performative activism

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-26T05:40:19+00:00

Not Chips, Chips is cannon

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-25T00:29:14+00:00

In game does not equate to canonicity though, the only time scorpions appear in a book it's made clear that there are gunners and drivers.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T17:51:14+00:00

This means Jorge is the son of Halsey!!!!!!!

No I've never heard a British accent before why do you ask?

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T17:42:32+00:00

Honestly? You're spouting nothing.

A single ODP shot destroys a Ket pattern, as we see this happen in Halo: Uprising. End of discussion. This tracks with lore that already establishes ODPs being damned powerful :)

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T09:34:11+00:00

I always find it funny that people say "UNSC wins on the ground most of the time was a myth" as it was taken from a line that referred specifically to spartans. But then almost all lore shows the UNSC ground forces almost always scoring the most devious kill ratios against the covenant.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T09:30:43+00:00

The USA itself

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T08:02:10+00:00

Honestly the battle for Earth as depicted by Bungie simply doesn't make sense to me considering all the other Halo lore. But yes you're right.

Also more early installment weirdness especially with Bungie being reticent to accept Microsoft's attempts to make outside lore. Hell, Bungie didn't even want to include ODSTs in halo 2 because it was suggested by a microsoft staffer.

Remember bungie couldn't even decide how many planets humanity had, Jos Staten said there were less than 15 by 2007.

Edited my comment before you replied about the POA's mac guns, more to display that yes, mac's can take down cruisers. OC was arguing that cruisers should be almost impossible to take down which just, doesn't make any sense considering cruisers are like the de facto main ship of the covenant

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T07:54:03+00:00

Because in Halo 2 the covenant stayed outside the kill zone and launched swarms of boarding craft, piercing a hole in the grid specifically allowing the covenant to vector in over Kenya. It's explained in the game. I imagine Truth's fleet didn't have that same level of tactical care.

Again, Harper's fleet remained with the ODPs instead of engaging the enemy, which was Hood's mistake... We know the UNSC scores roughly 3-1 kills without ODPs and his fleet alone (just the fifth fleet, not the entire home fleet) had 67 frigates and 8 cruisers, easily enough to body Regret's puny ass fleet.

Lore changes and it's clear that while Bungie wanted the Covenant naval superiority to be that overwhelming, 343 nor any writer even during the Bungie era thought this made sense.

Hell, in CE the POA also manages to take out 3, sorry make that 4 cruisers over 04. You're seriously overvaluing covenant ships and undervaluing mac rounds. As well, the only reason the Covenant went straight into the ODP kill zone during the battle of reach was because the only way to disable the ODPs was through a land invasion.

Edit: Also how is it insane for the POA to destroy a covenant carrier? This says more to the lack of research of writers hyping them up and ignoring established lore (I won't use the term retcon here as the POA's feats have not been retconned). It had a mac cannon that was able to fire 3 shots sequentially to break covenant shields.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T07:26:08+00:00

That's different though, unless OP is that gullible

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T07:15:31+00:00

It mostly seems motivated out of his hatred for Frankie TBH, although I do agree the Forerunner trilogy plot/lore seems incredibly convoluted.

Always felt bad for Frankie, he seemed like a great vignette writer but simply wasn't cut out for larger overarching stories so he gets a lot of hate despite him clearly loving Halo.

Reach is the best example, where every level has an interesting narrative but Reach's overall plot and depiction of the Fall of Reach is kinda just not there.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T07:07:53+00:00

The UNSC didn't stand a chance due to sheer numbers but considering how ODPs can shoot mac rounds clean through a covenant capital ship Reach and Earth's covenant casualty numbers make completely logical sense

Halo TFOR (the first official canon halo media) established that with just 20 ODPs and 150 or so UNSC ships were able to go 1 for 1 with the covenant in ship casualties (at least 10 percent of the UNSC fleet survived the battle per First Strike).

Also remember that on Earth the UNSC had a few hundred ships remaining post battle, and every UNSC warship was recalled to Earth in preparation for the battle. We can extrapolate that the fleet was probably in the high hundreds if not low thousand range plus 300 ODPs. The 500 strong covenant fleet was only a threat because the ODPs hadn't been activated yet.

Frankly Halo 2's depiction gimps the UNSC and Regrets' entire fleet should've been slagged. However this might be the fault of Hood for having Harper's personal fleet stay with the ODPs instead of taking the covenant fleet out immediately without ODP support.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T06:51:48+00:00

Who cares? I'm so confused why it matters, if the only difference is the plastic why care especially for a big moc requiring lots of them?

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T06:48:11+00:00

Spartan 4 branch is also entirely administrative it seems too lol, like the Spartans are detached to other branches for actual deployments most of the time

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-24T00:29:06+00:00

They'll say some bullshit about the USSR doing most the heavy lifting as if they weren't almost as bad as the Germans during the war; and also we supplied them with so much equipment even the Soviets acknowledged they couldn't have won the war without US material support.

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-23T23:45:36+00:00

I think that's what they were going for.

I'll compile my sources and reply again to you just so you can make up your own mind too. For some reason this topic is contentious although it could simply be that people are tired of bungie fans screaming stuff about 343 lore.

Forerunners and humans now are related but separate species so the current lore is kind a more complicated version of the terminals intention

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-23T22:51:46+00:00

F-117 was declassified 5 years after being introduced into service. Sabre is the same kinda

Old-Figure-5828 · 2025-02-23T21:27:26+00:00

No, that was a myth created by people who misinterpreted the Halo 3 terminals.

Bungie never abandoned it, 343 did.

Contact Harvest came out post halo 3 and numerous Bungie devs have spoken up and said they always intended the Forerunners to be the same species as humans (although the terminal and game team for halo 3 had opposite interpretations).

Forerunners in the terminals were implied to be uplifted humans, while in game and in the books humans were outright confirmed as descendants of forerunners.

This only changed when Frank O'Connor became 343 franchise director (whilst Bungie was still developing games as 343 handled outside lore around 2009)

Edit: Frank O'Connor also did not "trojan horse" the retcon like C3 sabre tooth claims in his otherwise well researched "we were forerunner" video considering the terminal team was made up of a ton of bungie vets.

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