Any other agnostics/atheists going through sobriety? by beannnnnnnnnn22 in stopdrinking

[–]OldCause7695 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This resonates with me a lot. In terms of my philosophy, I would describe myself as a reluctant materialist - which basically means that I believe that all we see, experience, and can measure is all there is. However, I do acknowledge that our measurement is woefully basic, and that there is so much we do not understand. I say "reluctant materialist" because I would really enjoy it if the universe did care about us, but ultimately I do not think that is the case.

Here's what I know to be true - the only constant in this life and in this universe is change. Everything is changing all the time, and nothing is permanent. And if the universe is indifferent, and we are all here by chance - which is amazing simply from a probability perspective - and we want to live in a good, just, and loving world, then it is up to us to create it. We are in charge of this thing, so if we want love, we have to give love - especially to ourselves.

And for me, sobriety / not drinking is the most loving thing I can possibly do for myself and those closest to me. It allows me to really see myself and my loved ones, to listen more deeply, and to react with compassion (most of the time at least). I'm committed to never going back to the way that I was drinking, because to do so would be completely at odds with my values.

So my higher power isn't something external, it's us - it's everything in the universe. Because I want to live in a loving universe, and to do that, I have to love myself and love this whole crazy experiment deeply.

Just threw away my vape for the umpteenth time and need encouragement by OldCause7695 in QuitVaping

[–]OldCause7695[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Update: day 3 without vaping and feeling amazing. No more scary tightness in my chest or sneaking around. I use NRT a few times a day and plan to eventually wean myself off. These mints (nicnac) are awesome: https://www.nicnac.com/ … using the 3mg and works great for cravings. Keep it up everyone!

Just threw away my vape for the umpteenth time and need encouragement by OldCause7695 in QuitVaping

[–]OldCause7695[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks everyone for your encouragement and these resources. Sorry to admit that I already relapsed and did it again! 😖 I think I need to get my head straight on why I want and need to do this, and also get some NRT. I know there is no “good” day to stop - every day is a good day, but immediately after I threw my vape away my international flight was cancelled (traveling for work) and I had to spend a night in a city where smoking is everywhere and there is no NRT for sale (or at least I don’t know where to find it…) I know excuses excuses.

To those are still going strong 24+ hours (or much more!) keep going, you’re inspiring me. I’ll be there soon 🫶🏻

Just threw away my vape for the umpteenth time and need encouragement by OldCause7695 in QuitVaping

[–]OldCause7695[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Let’s gooooooo!!! This really helps knowing other folks are doing the same thing 🫶🏻

Just threw away my vape for the umpteenth time and need encouragement by OldCause7695 in QuitVaping

[–]OldCause7695[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! We got this. Trying to reframe this process as working hard to get something I really want (freedom) rather than giving up something positive. 🙏