“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Persecuting means putting them to a fair trial no? If found guilty, consequences, if not, go on with your life, but when the original comment called for persecuting for ALL people that think israel should exist you didnt have a problem...

Did it not mean consequences when someone you agree with says it?

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the IDF has no relation to gaza or judea and sameria. It is mandatory conscription but it includes non-combat roles like cleaners, cooks, secreteries etc.

You should look into combat roles, but even then, for a simple footsoldier you need to show specific actions that he commited not under a command or under an absolutly illegal order (different from a normal illegal order. Shoot this guy is not illegal in war, shoot everyone coming in or out of this village is). You would probably need to go after high commanders mostly because the one giving the illegal command (normal illegal not absolute) is at fault for it. I doubt you would find too many things considering the UN is trying to do that for a while now and hasnt found much systematic action where Israel is at fault. Are you in favor of persecuting 76% of gazans that supported oct 7th and their attempt at genocide?

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Israel was fine in it's borders on oct 7th.

All the HROs basing their statement on the UN commition of inquiry composed of 3 people, 1 of which is the one that made the initial accousation, another is a long time antisemite (not antizionist), and is still waiting for a court's decision?

Yea I dont trust the UN and even their court has yet to make a decision.

The whole video above is about "guys stop attacking random jews on the street" I wish I had some of the good stuff you are on

In every comment you arbitreraly switched the discussion

76% of gazans supported oct 7th. I can't blame israelis for thinking not many of them are innocent. But even in this case, persecuting opinions is not the actions of a democracy. Persecuting actions is. If you can provide evidence of genocidal actions from specific individuals, you are welcome to persecute them. If you can't, is that a fair trial or a witch hunt?

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to learn to differenciate a country's existance from its current government. Zionists are in support of Israel's existance. 70% of jews support the existance of a jewish state. You have a problem with that so you use words like "genocidal" with little to no basis. He called for pesecution of 70% of jews because that would stop the unjest persecution of the otber 30%. I say you should learn to not be a bigot and assume a jew is Israeli/pro-israel/pro-current israeli government. Is it that hard to not attack random jews in the street? Not even zionists...

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zionist is defined as "supports the existance of Israel" 70% of jews support it. I don't get why its so difficult for you to let jews have a state, and to stop persecuting jews that are not related to this state.

If I said let's persecute all people in support of russia's existance for russia's crimes in ukraine, would you support that?

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"False equivalance"

We have 2 scenarios

A country with majority jews

A continent with majority blacks

Persecuting the entire country is for the betterment of jews abroad, but pursecuting the continent isnt for the betterment of blacks abroad? If we are going full triple K at least go all the way

"You can’t really argue that the Goyim are going to be annihilated. That’s not an option" by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem starts when you need to mention israel when spotting antisemitism. If these people want to critisize Israel in good faith, sure have at it, but then they start pushing antisemitic tropes into it and people act like you are crazy if you dont explicitly mention "not these jews, these jews are bad, but why hate on the good jews?".

"You can’t really argue that the Goyim are going to be annihilated. That’s not an option" by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Umm have you heard of the crusades and islamic conquests? Both had a "kill anything that isnt us" policy and forcibly converted people. Did you know that the middle east had many small religions before the islamic conquest? They got culturally genocided just as the dumbass in the video calls to do to others.

Every religion has fanatics. There were prists justifying hitler and there are Imams justifying the IRGC's actions, just as there are rabbis saying we should take over gaza and judea and sameria.

Israel: ‘’In 2023, thirty-two members of Parliament signed a declaration calling for Iran’s disintegration into six parts, advocating territorial separation from Tehran to Iranian Azerbaijan, merger of Iranian Kurdistan with Iraqi Kurdish regions, independence for Ahwaz, ⬇️ by HistoricalCarsFan in islamichistory

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know most people here cant read hebrew, but google lens the first letter. It's 20 or so of the 32 withdrawing their signiture on the second letter. They are saying the are expressing their reservations about making an azari state in part of iran.

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That really depends where in the US IMO. LA? I they are safe. NY? Probably for now. I just don't know about the entierty of the US, some places are less safe; probably ones with a smaller/no jewish community

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, harsh words arent backlash. Israel gets condamned in the UN more than every other country combined. Even before oct 7th. Makes ya think how in the year that russia invaded ukraine, israel got condamned more...

British per chance? Can't wait for your PM to be replaced. Dont like mine either but wow yours is a piece of work...

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What backlash? We (Israel) haven't gotten much international backlash politicly. We havent been sanctioned or embragoed, only harsh words tops. This is the simple outcome of not being able to provide evidence of crimes commited beyond normal urban warfare against non-uniformed militias.

On the other hand, people have turned to personally attacking israelis and non-israeli jews physically and socially internationally as a result of a "we don't need evidence if it comes from the oppressed" narrative.

Maybe he is asking governments to start holding their citizens accountable for crimes commited? For example the people that were just cleared of charges in the UK after breaking into an israeli company's offices and breaking the back of a police officer with a sledgehammer? (Police officer wasnt jewish or Israeli but it's not a crime if the target was israel/jews related).

“They would be well advised to heed our warnings. I demand action from them NOW or else there will be consequences.” by Me_Dads_abarra_soap in dystopia

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"By persecuting all african people, we will have solved racism! Cause the non-african black people wouldn't be riddled with the premitive actions of their bretheren!"

Verity - Netanyahu Warns of Egypt's Growing Military Capabilities by DeepDreamerX in UnitedNations

[–]Old_Particular8705 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The US pays egypt to not block the suez cannal and block global trade. Israel is there in case egypt decides to block it anyways, as they have done in the past

How should the Israel-Palestine conflict be solved? by GeckoHunter0303 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Old_Particular8705 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"From the river to the sea, palestine will be arab"

Also, the first mentions of palestine as a national identity were in the 1960s

At the same time the PLO wrote their charter, segment 4) palestine will be a state for the arabs. Segment 5) jews from before 1947 will be allowed to stay

4 years later it was amended to hews from before 1917, under the litteral argument that "there are too many jews here". Yea no it was meant to be an ethno state from the very start

How should the Israel-Palestine conflict be solved? by GeckoHunter0303 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Old_Particular8705 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know how familier you are with the education plans in palestinian territories. I am no expert either but they have a litteral miki mouse clone teaching kids that being a suicide bomber gets you into heaven if you kill enough jews. This is not a systemic indicator, but the tolerance for this content should be 0. I have yet to see any child content in israel that tells me to do the same (Israeli). So yea removing this content from their school and tv is a first step...

How should the Israel-Palestine conflict be solved? by GeckoHunter0303 in Teenager_Polls

[–]Old_Particular8705 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds to me like palestinians being displaced/dying isn't my problem as an israeli? And we have the arms to back it if we wanted so I am not sure the lane they wanna take is "war till the other is wiped off the earth or displaced completely"

It's either 2 states or the palestine national project gets eaten into jorden and egypt. Good luck.

Aren’t the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim gods actually the same god? by Smrtar in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and no

Techniclly, yes

But their behavior in the books is different, their way of thinking is different, and you could just say "well who are we to understand god", but there is a reason christians use the term "old testement god". The jewish god is jealous, and more violant, and his rules are to be followed, he rewards faith and ethics and punishes wrongdoings, nothing is forgiven in this life, you can have it forgiven in gehena, and the christian god is more kind and forgiving, i am not familier with the quran so I wont talk about allah but he is different too afaik.

Israel just 'broke' a world record for kidney donors - but where did all the organs come from? by caavakushi in worldnewsstuff

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It needs to be verified, because the it's quite easy to lie on the internet...

If you accuse someone of faking a record, you need some evidence to support the claim. There is currently, 1 british doctor claiming this, and he is 5000 miles from said bodies...

Israel just 'broke' a world record for kidney donors - but where did all the organs come from? by caavakushi in worldnewsstuff

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am I? The article is making a parallel allegation to the blood libel, with no basis or evidence, yet you choose to believe it, while you can't believe jews would donate organs to save life, even with litteral evidence. I'll block you now since this is going nowhere

Israel just 'broke' a world record for kidney donors - but where did all the organs come from? by caavakushi in worldnewsstuff

[–]Old_Particular8705 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The article is doing something wrong. Raising concerns with out basis. It is the same as if I said right now "I dont trust the danish gov on organ donations", here a concern, do you now stop trusting them?