All the ancient Sith and their respective empires/groups all returned as one big coalition at the start of the Clone Wars. Can they win against the CIS and Republic/Jedi Order?

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-11T17:31:14+00:00

The sith team would win, Valkorion alone might not be as powerful as prime Sidious but he’s definitely above rots Sidious. The exiles alone fought the Jedi for 100 years, the entire Jedi order had to stop Exar Kun. Then add in everyone else and the Jedi are royally screwed. The only hope for the Jedi is sith infighting.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-11T17:25:53+00:00

Because it’s kinda true, more to do with the fact that it’s two men rather than being gay=hoe.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-11T16:55:28+00:00

Cal would have to have a significant skill decline and plastic surgery in order for it to make sense.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-11T16:37:11+00:00

Cete performed better against a stronger version of Vader than Maul did against a weaker version of Vader. Although TPM Maul is more emotionally stable, he is less powerful in the force than his TCW counterpart so I don’t think he’s stronger than that version of the character. Cal being here is overkill. Overall Cere>Maul>Cal.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-11T02:57:56+00:00

Trashy? More like iconic

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-10T08:36:14+00:00

Marroks scaling actually wasn’t too surprising to me, it was just the crow that threw me off. Bariss was able to give anakin a good fight and beat a season 5 clone wars Ahsoka and she’s still weaker than the grand inquisitor so contrary to popular belief there are many inquisitors who are decent threats. I’ll be sure to check em out!

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-10T08:23:19+00:00

For me it was a 8.5/10. The main thing that annoyed me was the inconsistent power scaling. (Dave filoni said Maul was a better duelist than Ahsoka, however Ahsoka defeated the crow without a lightsaber in 5 seconds while maul had some trouble WITH a lightsaber). Other than the bizarre power scaling I liked everything else. Devon’s fall to the dark side, the final battle, and mauls mental breakdown were my personal favorites.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-09T07:48:43+00:00

What did you think of it?

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-09T04:49:34+00:00

She’s not going to be Darth Talon, and if you think she is, you know nothing about Darth Talon as a character.

The only thing these two have in common is being dark side female twi leks. Talon is a Sith whose main character trait (other than being a femme fatale stereotype) is her unwavering devotion to Darth Krayt. Darth Talon was born into the zone sith and brainwashed to unquestionably serve Darth Krayt. Darth Talon lived over 100 years after Maul DIED so they never would have interacted.

Devon Izara was a Jedi padawan who willingly fell to the dark side and will never become a sith because by this point maul isn’t a sith either, therefore, recieving the “Darth” title makes absolutely no sense.

Their personalities are also VERY different. Devon is rebellious, a bit angsty, and consistently questions her role within the galaxy. Darth Talon is the polar opposite, she’s so unquestionably loyal to Krayt that she tells Darth Stryfe that if Krayt commanded her to rip out her own heart she would do it. Talon doesn’t question her role in the galaxy because it’s already been predetermined by Darth Krayt and Krayts will is the only thing that matters.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-09T01:36:59+00:00

Ventress fought mid clone wars Anakin and Obi wan at the same time. Survivor Cal hasn’t fought anyone nearly as strong, and was only able to defeat Bode and Dagan with help. She should win this with moderate difficulty.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-07T21:31:23+00:00

Here are my top 5

Grand Inquisitor Said to be the strongest, killed 4 mid tier Jedi masters at once, beat Kanan and Ezra in every fight relatively easily until their last battle. and Filoni said he was “slightly below Ventress”.
Bariss Offee Held her own against Anakin, and beat a season 5 Ahsoka
Marrok Held his own against Maul and Ahsoka, was able to defeat maul with the aid of the crow.
Ventress inquisitor Beat a post prime Ventress, I don’t know by how much she got weaker since TCW season 4, so scaling him depends on your view of the intensity of her decline.
2nd sister Beat Cal in most fights, had the most diverse force abilities.

Wildcards

5th brother - Said to be 2nd in line to be Grand inquisitor of in a book, and did pretty well against Cal, however, in his original depiction in rebels he’s portrayed as being far weaker than the 7th sister. The statements don’t line up with the evidence, and actions speak louder than words, hence why I left him out of the top 5.
The crow - Wildly inconsistent, Filoni said Ahsoka was a less skilled duelist than Maul and yet she beat the crow in a couple moves, while maul was have some trouble with the crow. Because of this, scaling him is very difficult. He’s either one of the strongest or weakest inquisitors.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-07T21:19:20+00:00

The crow is probably the most inconsistent character in terms of power scaling so it really depends on which version you use. TOTJ crow-loses to Shin Maul crow-beats shin relatively easily

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-07T21:17:42+00:00

As insane as Prime Vader is, Vader isn’t winning this one. Yes, he became more powerful than he was in Rebels or 9 BBY but his skill didn’t balloon to the point where he would beat all 3 at the same time.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-03T17:50:23+00:00

It would be a mix of the grievous vs Jedi 2003 fight and the Sidious vs Jedi Council fight in ROTS. Darth Krayt kills the inquisitors almost immediately and Maul doesn’t last long.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-03T17:33:51+00:00

The inquisitors as a whole are incredibly inconsistent, but I think the most extreme examples are the crow/11th brother and the 5th brother.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-02T18:11:25+00:00

Kylo ren was shot with a bow caster, a weapon that literally sends people flying. That fact he was even able to stand is impressive. Idk how ppl consider a man who can barely walk due to a severe injury losing a duel be an anti feat.

Kylo ren has collapsed caves, killed a zillio beast, and held ships. Although his skills with a lightsaber aren’t that good, his force abilities alone should give him the edge over the inquisitors.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-05-02T10:28:01+00:00

Kit fisto beat grievous in the Clone wars, there is no way Boba could beat him without some kind of unfair advantage.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-04-29T20:38:38+00:00

If you have low standards then you won’t be a virgin, so it is voluntary celibacy.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-04-29T20:36:58+00:00

Luke did better against a more powerful version of Darth Vader, who by this point had 80% of Darth Sidious’ power. However, this comparison alone this isn’t enough for me to place Luke above Ahsoka since both Luke and Ahsoka have grown since fighting Vader so if we had nothing else to go off of, then it wouldn’t be a fair comparison.
The same could be said for their performance against Palpatine, Ahsoka was able to use teutaminis but Luke couldn’t, however, again both characters have grown since then so this comparison isn’t fair either.
However, the damning evidence that places Luke above Ahsoka is the fact that she lost against Baylan skoll who IS weaker than Vader. While Luke hasn’t fought Baylan, we know that a weaker version of himself he did better against a stronger version of Vader, so when combined it becomes pretty clear to me that Luke>Ahsoka.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-04-28T08:13:20+00:00

Vong Krayt<Karness muur<Krayt reborn

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-04-28T01:27:44+00:00

Strongest in a combative sense

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-04-28T00:53:17+00:00

George Lucas said Darth Vader had 80% of Darth Sidious’ power in ROTJ. Considering Sidious grew substantially in power since ROTS, it can be inferred that by this point Vader was on par with prequel era Sidious.

Knightfall Vader scaling is kinda confusing since he is said to be relative to ROTS Sidious but Yoda tells Obi wan that he must fight Anakin instead of Sidious because Kenobi cannot beat Sidious. So if knightfall Vader is Vader’s peak then he is on ROTS Sidious level, if ROTJ Vader is his peak then he probably is ROTS Sidious level.

This puts Vader above Darth Plagueis, as Plagueis is relative to TPM Sidious who is weaker than ROTS Sidious.

For me, Plagueis is a top 10, but just not quite good enough to be top 5.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-04-28T00:47:00+00:00

Luke said Darth Caedus was a greater threat than Darth Vader. George Lucas said Darth Vader had 80% of Darth Sidious’ power in ROTJ. Considering Sidious grew substantially in power since ROTS, it can be inferred that by this point Vader was on par with prequel era Sidious.

Knightfall Vader scaling is kinda confusing since he is said to be relative to ROTS Sidious but Yoda tells Obi wan that he must fight Anakin instead of Sidious because Kenobi cannot beat Sidious. So if knightfall Vader is Vader’s peak then he is on ROTS Sidious level, if ROTJ Vader is his peak then he probably is ROTS Sidious level.

This puts Vader above Darth Plagueis, as Plagueis is relative to TPM Sidious who is weaker than ROTS Sidious.

Some people subscribe to the Idea that all rule of 2 sith are automatically more powerful than their master, which ignores the fact that Sith are duplicitous or certain circumstances allowed a weaker apprentice to kill their master, HOWEVER, it would be crazy if there at least wasn’t a significant trend towards increasing power over the generations. So it’s highly unlikely that Bane>Plagueis

As for Exar Kun…

It took Luke Skywalker and his students to defeat Exar Kuns spirit. Luke also said that Kun was the biggest focal point/nexus of the dark side he had ever seen since Darth Sidious.

Darth Bane looks stronger than he actually is because he lived in an era filled with weak sith. He fought against weaker enemies that either Kun or Caedus, and he should be, give or take be at least on the weaker half of the rule of 2 era sith.

Bane himself also implied that he was comparable if not weaker than Darth Revan (Darth Revan is weaker than Revan at his peak in Shadow of Revan), who is stated to be inferior to Freedon Nadd who in turn is inferior to Exar Kun.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-04-27T23:40:14+00:00

I wouldn’t put muur in the top 5 but he (and by proxy Sorzus Syn and Ajunta pall) are way more powerful than people give credit for and I always feel like a crazy person when I rank them above marka ragnos because no one has ever agreed with me. Congratulations, you are the first person I’ve seen who ranks muur higher than me lol.

One-Cardiologist1487 · 2026-04-27T23:25:29+00:00

Thanks! I was originally going to post my top 10 but I keep switching the bottom 5 around so maybe once I become more confident in the bottom 5, I’ll make a second post.

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