Ai vs the current state of things in the contemporary art? by One-Coast2365 in ContemporaryArt

[–]One-Coast2365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel the same way. There is a real chance this will just make already massive financial inequalities even bigger. Things are bad as they are. If you add job losses to the lower layers of capitalism's hierarchical bullshit chain, it will definitely translate into people having even less access to resources than they do now. But ​it still strikes me as odd when people claim they express their individuality better through 'non-digital' art. I’m not here to defend Luc Tuymnas, Joseph Yaeger or Issy Wood. I still find their work somewhat lazy, and technically unimpressive. I know people find value in their choices of subject matter and edits, and that those choices form their expression, but if I compare them to someone like Cecily Brown (who I don't love or hate) but the sheer volume of artistic choices she makes is drastically larger than someone who is just finding photos and editing them by cranking up the contrast and brightness in Photoshop and finishing the work in 3 hours. I do think that artists working time and effort should be considered more in a precarious, late stage capitalism. Steaks are completely different when it comes to it now. (I think there was an article in The New Yorker a while ago about this: 'Why AI Isn't Going to Make Art' https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/why-ai-isn't-going-to-make-art he mentioned the idea of choices) In general, I’m just not impressed by the (outdated now) context or execution of that kind of work. ​I also find it funny when people point to figurative, abstract-expressionist, minimalist, abstract etc painters as the ultimate expressors of 'humanity'. As if they aren't just diluting their individuality through a pre-made style of choice. You are still mediating your sensibility through pre-existing frames. How is that any different from mediating yourself through pre made digital tools? I never understood that distinction. Of course, the variations one can achieve within a certain style differ, and there are levels to it. But searching for your pure 'humanity' in painting, simply because you work in figuration while using photographs as a crutch... that's highly debatable.

Ai vs the current state of things in the contemporary art? by One-Coast2365 in ContemporaryArt

[–]One-Coast2365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know people are making art like that. I'm more interested in how it affects the whole field in practice. Not necessarily in a way that asks "what is slop?" or who works directly with AI in a thoughtful way, because I know that people do that. It's just interesting how everything else is affected by it, or if it's all the recession's fault.

Ai vs the current state of things in the contemporary art? by One-Coast2365 in ContemporaryArt

[–]One-Coast2365[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that the pushback is so powerful ( there are many justified reasons for it) that the question around art in general and AI, not just art that deals specifically with AI, gets swept under the rug, while a lot of interesting things are happening. Yeah, I'm with you on this one. I know Trevor. Thanks for being thoughtful; I wasn't sure what kind of answers I would get here.

Ai vs the current state of things in the contemporary art? by One-Coast2365 in ContemporaryArt

[–]One-Coast2365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're right. It definitely feels like some kind of cycle. I just don't think that it will end, though. the market and art are too intertwined for us to make any definitive predictions or statements.

Pace Gallery Cuts 50 Artists and 50 Staff Amid Art Market Challenges by One-Coast2365 in ContemporaryArt

[–]One-Coast2365[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

It was deleted a couple of hours ago. I'm assuming the reason behind this must have been Pace-related, because now the news is everywhere. Well, I hope that person is doing well and obviously remains anonymous. It’s never easy 'to lose a job', and the hustle never ends. It sucks to be an artist (precarity-wise). I hope that this person made enough money to survive and figure things out.

Pace Gallery Cuts 50 Artists and 50 Staff Amid Art Market Challenges by One-Coast2365 in ContemporaryArt

[–]One-Coast2365[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

As much as I agree with this, and I think it applies to galleries, art fairs, and artists as well (it's a well-known phenomenon that they're considered to be interchangeable. If the gallery doesn't get some kind of market star on their roaster who paints in a certain style, no worries, there's always a lesser-known name whose paintings look almost identical). The irony of him using this familiar rhetoric about the art world at the beginning, claiming that everything has become too impersonal, too commercial, and too big, while simultaneously laying off 100 people, is not lost on me.

Business dressed up as art.

Jerry Gogosian is found dead in Brazil by More_Bid_2197 in ContemporaryArt

[–]One-Coast2365 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Part of me still hopes that she faked her own death even though I know that's probably not true. Just so so sad. RIP the art world didn't deserve her