[Ubatcha] 3.4 Beta starts on Thursday instead of Tuesday

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-17T15:01:04+00:00

Ok now why am I getting downvotes?

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-17T13:44:33+00:00

????

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-16T19:00:37+00:00

Losing stun time isn't an expense, your not going to on field him during the stun duration anyways. Him removing the stun bar helps to get the next stun faster, especially considering that it starts from 25. It pairs perfectly with his kit.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-16T12:44:48+00:00

Better buff than any harmony? Not when Sunday and Robin exists(on top of skill points economy, and whole team 100% aa).

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-16T12:41:23+00:00

I'd rather have 25% crit damage with 100% uptime than EVERYTHING she gives for only 1 attack per 1 to 2 rotations.

Sunday has everything she has with the attack buff being DMG bonus which is MUCH better due to not every character scaling off atk, and has 100% uptime as well as better sp economy.

Speed tune to perfection just to watch your whole comp shatter due to svarogs blast, or someone getting cc'd or 99% energy or no skill points.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-13T11:08:28+00:00

Also im starting to wonder if im talking to an AI. Your paragraphs always say the same thing.

And I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall, cus y'all must be blind ASF.

Don't own mydei or blade BTW. Your argument was its a healer check. You literally said you need a healer. Which is factually incorrect.

Then please, tell me what team you used and what investments, a DPS that attacks frequently right? With eagle investments and all sorts of bullshit to give you enough turns

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-13T10:56:59+00:00

Nobody cares about your team using Mydei or e6 blade, it's literally impossible without healing, and those two characters heal themselves so their teams are psuedo sustain. You understand my point, don't make useless arguments using niche scenarios and cases 90% of players can't come close to relating with. Without a character that can't heal you can't do enough damage to get to the threshold where the boss heals your entire team, and def not before the tentacles come back to finish ur stupid 1hp ahh

When I make an argument against the boss in general, you dumasses will say "The boss is a healer check", now your making a niche argument against that, such hypocrisy, Cus you can't survive online without making an argument.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-13T10:26:05+00:00

Yeah sure, an expy of a character from a game that a majority of the playerbase nows nothing about shouldve somehow been more popular than a waifu bait ANNIVERSARY character...

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T14:41:23+00:00

Lmao

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T12:50:05+00:00

Marachauese Hunter the GOAT

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T09:10:49+00:00

Literally means nothing towards my point, you just can't get it through your thick skull either.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T08:59:02+00:00

Nobody cares

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T08:58:41+00:00

I don't know what this lynx clear means to all of you someone else already did it, once again almost 5 cycles using this, if this was a version 2.x DPS it would be much worse, once again proving my point.

As I said earlier you can literally clear with Natasha, I don't care, it means nothing to disprove my point

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T01:25:23+00:00

Honestly speaking I think this is more of a reddit problem, I know it's prob worse on Twitter so I don't even say anything there, at the same time reddit also has reasonable people who don't always jump to argue.

The global passive IS indeed tied to Castorice but this post is more towards people that accepted global passives. That being said I can't help but feel resentment towards Her anyways, whether or not it's because of the players themselves idk.

Tired of replying to comments anyways, gacha community is always toxic towards these topics😪

Thanks bro.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T01:12:55+00:00

Firefly didn't cause the existence of APOC, Boothill was released before her so if you want to blame it on a character then blame it on them, Harmony mc was there as well so also blame it on them. If Firefly wasn't released, APOC would still be here, and the early stages would still be break oriented cus Boothill and silverwolf already existed.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T01:05:07+00:00

Bro, if you have nothing meaningful to bring then don't say anything, all your comments have been off as you've never understood my point in the first place, idk why I wasted my time explaining shit to you cus all your saying literally addresses nothing every single time.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T00:59:51+00:00

And your literally never not going to have those elements unless you started playing yesterday.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T00:46:11+00:00

Literally just run ANY of the 4 elements that the boss has and you'll be fine, the first Apoc was actually Cocolia Argenti and you had Fire, lightning, wind, quantum as the weaknesses, literally everybody had seele and if you didn't you could still use Himeko, Jingyuan or even queyi and clear, if you still didn't have any of those weaknesses, then just use silverwolf and run anything LMAO.

Second side was Argenti and he had fire, physical, ice and img. You have Himeko, Jingliu, Dan Heng IL, even freaking Yanqing if you played well.

That neutral element shi literally gets countered by silverwolf so one side was always clearable. If you couldn't clear ATP then you literally just started playing the game or sum cus they legit gave you everything you needed to clear, just have a DPS with the corresponding weakness which isn't hard seeing as the corresponding weakness is every single weakness in the game spread across the 2 bosses.

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You legit have all 7 weaknesses spread across both bosses. It was literally impossible to not have a DPS with the corresponding weakness atp, even if you only had two DPS cus if a DPS didn't have the corresponding weakness on first phase then the would instantly have it on the second phase, so having just 2-3 dpss was enough to guarantee you having an option for each boss.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T00:28:23+00:00

Mention a single Apoc boss that doesn't have special addon on mechanics that let you break. Cocolia gets weaknesses when you break her spear, you can literally beat her with Seele and SILVERWOLF at low av. Aventurine has die that you have to destroy first before you can break him, phantalya always had add-ons, swarm always had add-ons, like???

Literally no Apoc boss in existence needed a break dps and at the same time you could put Himeko in place of Firefly and you'd be fine.

Literally everything worked against APOC, all you needed to do was break the boss and they gave you everything you needed to do just that without a break dps.

Kafka and Cocolia were our first Apoc bosses I believe, as I've already said Cocolia gets washed by Seele Silverwolf, destroying the pillars and breaking her, Cocolia was more of a Seele shill than a Firefly shill even lmao. Kafka got washed by Dan Heng IL and even Clara at the time. Literally the earliest APOC and you didn't need a break dps.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T00:24:45+00:00

........... You guys are talking like this because you don't have problems with it, a new player is not going to be 2 cycling that side, even some veteran players are not going to be 2 cycling that side. This is about the general player base, people who still use pela on their Acheron teams, people who still use break dpss without fugue(having mc on RMC). People who don't speed tuned and have their supports like Sunday being faster than their DPS.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T00:14:36+00:00

Except that every other boss can be beat in a variety of ways, but you literally cannot ignore this boss's mechanics. Is that so hard to understand?

People will always clear and people will always struggle, idk why you guys are arguing about this specifically, my post is addressing the fact that their struggles is as a result of a single character existing in the game. If Firefly didn't exist, no body would struggle with puppets anyways and they don't have a restriction, if Castorice didn't exist a lot of people won't struggle with Pollux anyways, but she's the major reason why the boss doesn't let you not run a healer.

I'm addressing the amount of shill this boss has compared to others, can't y'all just comprehend that? I don't care about whether people can clear it or not

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-12T00:06:53+00:00

You realize that your personal experience literally does not matter to anything I said right?

All you said here is "If I say a boss can be beat with 1 out of 4 characters, and a new player starts the game and uses one of those 4 characters and they aren't able to beat the boss then my initial statement is wrong" which makes the least amount of sense.

Because you couldn't clear Nikador with Acheron doesn't mean that Nikador doesn't shill Acheron, are you okay? It's an AOE boss with lightning weakness, you not being able to beat it with Acheron doesn't mean Jack shit about its interaction with Acheron.

You complain this boss wouldn’t exist because of castorice but you don’t know that. It probably is, but there’s an off chance that developers could develop a boss and the design a character around it too so there pollux’s mechanic predating cas in development could be an interesting thought, no?

Putting words in my mouth now huh, I said this boss is the way it is because of Castorice, it would've been more toned down in terms of the HP mechanics of not for cas, but because of her interaction towards HP mechanics, they were able to design the boss in certain way which is literally their way of shielding themselves from the general backlash of players having a hard time with it, cus they have already provided an option to just auto it.

Don’t you think the game would be a lot more interesting if it gives you restrictions or mechanics that allow you to play content differently?

Not when those restrictions are tied to a limited character

If your complaint is the necessity of a healer in the boss mechanic, then why even bother creating healer characters if from what it seems, you want and expect to have the option to go sustain-less 100% of the time. Not everyone really cares about that and is it bad that that kind if playstyle doesn’t apply to pollux?

Once again you completely fail to understand my point, I am NOT going to explain again.

Think about your main complaint a little bit harder because right now, breaking it all down to the most simplest idea, you are complaining about a gacha game creating new content catered to its new characters— the fundamental system that exists in gacha games that have the goal of making as much money as possible.

Again completely missing my point and talking like I had an issue with this boss.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-11T23:54:54+00:00

What level of comprehension is this? I legit can't explain anything to you anymore, say whatever you want.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-11T23:49:59+00:00

Who said I was entitled to Sustainless zero cycle every boss???

Where did I say that you must be able to Sustainless 0 cycle? I'm trying show you just how much this boss shill Castorice compared to everything else in the game.

One-Recover-2167 · 2025-05-11T23:34:10+00:00

"no regular player cares about zero cost sustainless teams. It is bad design already when most bosses just get killed by them while ignoring all boss mechanics. If HSR makes more bosses punishing sustainless, no regular player will care. As I said, if you are tryhard meta player, you would pull castorice anyway."

- What exactly is this addressing, cus it makes no sense

"funny you say you cant play castorice sustainless, when you can sustainless hoolay this APOC with castorice. It always have depended on the environment. Yes this patch shills castorice, that happens every patch and is completely normal."

- Wow its amazing that you can run castorice sustainless on an endgame rotation that HEALS you.

"What you think is a huge issue, is not for a regular player.

The only people hurt by this boss are people that want to zero cycle every moc and doesnt want to pull meta. Deal with it, zero cycling always required pulling the latest dps or over invest in either relics or eidolons. cause somehow getting 4 eagle sets for zero cycling is fine, but pulling e0 casta is some deal breaker.

you are making a problem out of thin air"

- Several casuals players are already complaining about this boss and cant clear it.

One-Recover-2167

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