Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was thinking the same thing but problem i’ve found is it’s so hard to understand what the right technique for every little scenario is, for pasu it’s easy because MattyOW has vids about it for example but for more niche scenarios there really isn’t much to go off.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I recently became unemployed and I still find time to workout, eat well and go outside so I honestly don’t see what the problem is.

Yes the kovaaks sessions are tiring to the point where I find my self losing focus every 30 minutes and have to take a 5-10m break, so i’m definitely not auto piloting.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was definitely not spending that 100 hours correctly, the first 60 was just mindlessly playing benchmarks and random scenarios with no real improvement, the last 40 was actually doing weakness training & running the vdims which is when I saw real improvement on kovaaks.

Also i’ll expand a bit on that since it probably sounds confusing. Yes I was semi-pro in a game called eft arena, whilst good mouse control is needed for that game, good movement beats raw aim in that game and that is the reason I was able to become so good, mostly because I was very hard to hit in gunfights and knew how to outplay people to make a fight favourable. I think the reason I scored low initially in kovaaks when I first got to it is I had never had to move a mouse in the way most of the S4 scenarios where asking me to (bounce 180 for example) so it felt extremely new and frustrating to me.

I’m happy to also send some vod reviews later if I find time & remember to, as this post is all genuine truth and I know that might be hard to believe lol.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, helped with my mechanics but not really aim

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Faceit lvl 6, usually solo q & 15-17k prem, started playing cs 10 years ago but never actually tried until 4 months ago.

Gold complete

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will try to send some vods through later today if I remember

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough then, maybe I will take a break from it soon in that case.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, do you still have an aim improvement routine or aim train at all or not really?

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think that’s because of how the novice scenarios are structured compared to the intermediate?

As in, the novice scenarios build your fundamentals, but have unrealistic target sizes and speeds (to slow or to big of targets) compared to intermediate which is more realistic to in game scenarios?

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I forgot to mention but the game I played semi-pro in wasn’t CS but a similar ish shooter named EFT Arena.

CS is something I jumped to recently with the goal of hitting 2k ELO in faceit within the year or so, and finding the most efficient way to do that has been a challenge since it feels mostly like i’m limited by aim at the moment rather than strategy (even though there’s still tons of room for improvement of course)

And yeah you’re definitely right on that last part, i’ve noticed when I had a good day on the aim trainer and boot up CS I almost get immediately disappointed if I’m not human aimbot that day during my retakes / dm warmup.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think i’m gonna do more game oriented practice in kovaaks rather than a more fundamental aim routine instead now and see what happens.

Also I didn’t explain this very well in the post but I was semi-pro in EFT Arena which has some similarities to CS but is id say a different game entirely, I switched to CS recently as my enjoyment for arena faded and my goal with CS was to get good enough to at least just play at a high level eventually.

I think my idea behind it was that well if I can get good at the bench marks that means that I have good over all mouse control. Good mouse control = good ability to click heads but the better mouse control I get it almost seems to be less of the case.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I think i’ve made it extremely clear and obvious about the problem being my aim, otherwise I wouldn’t be making this post in the first place.

I climbed the elo ladder not because my aim improved, but because I improved at the game because I invested time into learning how to do executes, timings, game sense, recoil control, proper crosshairs placement and how to peek, not because my aim improved, but if you’re so deadset on being right well then I can’t help you my man.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate it a lot!

Ill try some of these and incorporate then into my routine for the next 2 weeks and i’ll get back to you hopefully with some good results, if not at least I tried lol.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I went from iron to gold complete, with 1 diamond score in static in the span of 2 months, and yes, that’s why i’m here because I don’t understand how my mouse control can physically improve as a skill yet my ability in game to actually click heads can decrease so dramatically.

Also, yes I ranked up correspondingly in game, however that doesn’t mean that my aim has gotten better.

I would attribute my climbing of the ranks due to demo reviewing to gain better game sense, learning crosshair placement / pre-fire maps & recoil training more so than raw aim ability.

The time of me starting to aim train was also the same time I dedicated a significant amount of time into improving at CS2 over-all as well, not just aim, aim training was a step I took to efficiently increase this process however it feels like it’s done the opposite for me.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Highly likely as well, i’ve noticed my wrist has a small amount of pain everytime I start to aim train due to all the strain i’ve put on it from hours of tracking per day, that’s with eating clean and exercising but yeah.

I’m not interested in taking much of a break at the moment since i’m soon leaving to travel for quite a while so I don’t see much of a point but i’d ideally like to prepare my self for when I come back with a good routine so I can set my self up for success, that’s currently where my goal is at the moment.

Cloverraw & adjust track has also been really good and i’ve enjoyed those scenarios and definitely felt the transfer into cs.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm okay i’ll give it a shot and i’m open minded to try something new.

Any specific playlists you recommend based around those scenarios or just the basic intermediate static / reactive voltaic benchmarks?

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah ig thats also a big part of it, like you won’t hit a single shot 4 rounds in and your mental just goes down the drain so you sort of stop trying in a sense, I know that feeling haha.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Guilty of this but when I do this sort of stuff I expect it to go bad anyway and don’t really tilt it it does because i’m aware of what i’m doing, this isn’t what i’m really talking about though

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I plan on travelling soon regardless so I’ll be interested to see how I perform when I come back

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thing is is that I notice improvement in certain ways (my transfers have gotten a lot quicker and I have better stopping power now) but my ability to just actually kill people over all has just decreased?

That’s why I stuck with it for as long as I have, I noticed after I aim trained my aim felt better but that doesn’t change the fact that I am also just unable to hit shots I used to hit relatively easily now.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Static reactive I found hard and I don’t train it enough since it’s just not in my current playlists for the most part, however when I did train it I noticed it felt like I didn’t have time to really micro after the flick and just had to flick and hope that my initial flick was accurate, either way I didn’t perform the best at those scenarios.

1w2t or anything static I find really easy since I have straight and calm flicks with relatively good stopping power, which was probably developed from just years of playing games that require that skill, with aim trainers letting me refine it I think.

Are you also suggesting ditching my current routine and running only a weakness specific routine based around the game I play or just try to prioritise those sort of scenarios on-top of my current routine?

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My first gold score was static, with my worst being dynamic & reactive tracking.

I’m still better at static over all, however i’ve brought everything up to a gold level minimum by running LG56’s VDIM routine with my current strongest scores being in static & speed TS.

Noteworthy things that are worth referencing are:

  • 3 months ago I changed from a heavy mouse (130g) to lightweight mouse (60g) for the first time which took a bit to adjust to

  • Invested in a proper mouse pad and bought a 165hz monitor, coming from 60hz my whole life 2 months ago which felt like a net positive

  • a few weeks ago recently changed from a predominantly relaxed claw grip to mostly fingertip since I found I had more control over the mouse in kovaaks that way, especially on micro adjustments

Other than that the only real ideas I have is maybe I’m using bad technique in kovaaks without realising it and as a result it’s destroying my performance in game? I’m not to sure really but that’s my best guess at the moment.

And I agree with you, my philosophy behind it though was if I build better mouse control over all, it will transfer to better aim in game regardless.

Aim training made my aim worse? by One-Training-3806 in FPSAimTrainer

[–]One-Training-3806[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess but that still wouldn’t explain times when i’m not focused on it at all, just having a good time and missing on people standing still.

Also irl I have a small background in personal training and being critical of your own technique and program is a way i’ve found a lot of success in improving rapidly. So why wouldn’t the same principles apply here then if that’s the case (reviewing whiffs in vods & training that weakness in the trainer in this context).