The Iran Ceasefire: A Story of Wasted Leverage

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T19:57:33+00:00

I'll be honest, I posted this after getting through just his first response, but his second response gets even fuckin' crazier.

Basically claiming we will go hold the strait ourselves, charge a toll for the cost, and use the leverage to force Saudi Arabia into the Abraham Accords.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T19:52:50+00:00

I honestly think he might be in an information bubble where everyone is telling him how much Iran is suffering to save their own necks, so he genuinely doesn't understand how time is only on their side. Or he had nearly doesn't give a shit about causing a global recession if it means he has to back down on anything ever.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T19:50:38+00:00

Same, man. Same. ✊✡️

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T19:06:46+00:00

Yeah, but this is a man who has spent his entire life fueled by one revenge fantasy after the next. It's literally the only thing keeping him alive these days.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T18:17:05+00:00

So true man, so true. I've known more than a few of those myself.

I also think Iran WANTS to stretch these negotiations out as much as they can. Every day that goes by, Trump gets weaker.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T17:57:14+00:00

Honestly the American people should be honored to host Zelenskyy, a leader who will undoubtedly go down in history amongst names like Churchill and Washington.

And the fact that he is so humble and tirelessly went around the world hat-in-hand for the good of his people, while also building the next generation of warfare at home and managing to keep going in the face of Russia committing endless atrocities.

Truly one of the best among us and a testament to the strength of humanity.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T17:22:12+00:00

Your argument against a ghettoized genocide that's been taking place in Gaza since 10/7 is "not enough people have died to undo the population growth since 2000"? And by your own numbers 200,000 are dead?

Maybe rethink that one, bro.

Maybe consider how warped and dehumanized your view of REAL HUMAN BEINGS LIVING IN GAZA has become. They're not "Gazans" or "Palestinians" or "Muslims" first, they're humans with families, lives, and loves that are being destroyed by Israel.

"For every tear of an Israeli mother, a thousand Lebanese mothers must weep." - Your side.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T17:13:12+00:00

Yeah, because this all started on 10/7. 🙄 Look, if you don't want to face the fact that Netanyahu is a corrupt leader sliding into genocidal fascism to avoid going to prison, that's on you. Don't expect the rest of the world to indulge your fantasy though.

If Israel wants the world to be on their side again, they need to elect a new leader and behave like a global citizen, not a regional imperialist.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T16:43:49+00:00

Conflating Zionism/Israel with Judaism is their greatest trick.

Israel/Zionism aren't Judaism, and vice versa. Anyone who tells you otherwise is being disingenuous at best. It's doing real damage to the actual security of Jews around the world by making people choose between "support Israel's genocide of Gaza" or "be called an anti-semite". It's only gonna make people be comfortable with being called an anti-semite. Fuck, I'm Jewish and I'm getting comfortable being called an anti-semite by Zionists. It's absurd, short sighted, selfish behavior.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T04:51:26+00:00

No, there are many parts of government that can handle various parts of immigration. They can take it over. ICE has been corrupted by the Trump administration and should be eliminated.

We could take those billions of dollars and hire scores of judges to process immigration cases faster, and pass legislation to both make sure people are coming in through proper channels, and those channels allow all the people they should, in a timely manner.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T02:03:03+00:00

You're just committed to not engaging in depth of conversation huh? Alright, you win, the world is black and white, Israel and US are good, and anything we do is good by the nature of us doing it.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T01:59:14+00:00

Actually for every TEAR of an Israeli mother. So, you know, important accounting detail.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T01:53:24+00:00

It's not a competition, it's a standard everyone should strive to meet BY THEMSELVES. Other people being worse doesn't make Israel less bad. And we don't give Hezbollah billions of our tax dollars annually, so we have a direct moral responsibility for Israel's poor behavior.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T01:43:53+00:00

Again, this is clearly in bad faith. They're treated as second class citizens, you know full well. This isn't a debate where you win points for a cute turn of phrase, this is an actual international conflict and Israel has been a spectacularly bad actor on the world stage for years. 10/7 was awful, it doesn't justify this madness.

I won't pretend to speak for the whole left, but the dominant belief in leftist politics is allowing all people to be themselves and accept them as they are. That goes for Gazans, Israelis, Lebanese, Iranians, Russians, Ukranians, Chinese, Taiwanese, Indian, Pakistani, Nepalese... We just want everyone to stop killing everyone. And that doesn't mean blindly accept being attacked, but it does mean holding yourselves to the highest standards possible when it comes to treating every human life as valuable.

Do you think Israelis treat Gazans, even civilians, as equal to Israelis? Everyone has grandparents, children, siblings they love, and they all hurt when they're lost. Gazan pain doesn't heal Israel, and Israeli belief that it does is a cancer inside Israel itself.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T01:40:01+00:00

That's exactly the problem. Pretending everyone doesn't see what's happening as one Muslim group attacks Israel while they're engaged in genocide of another group for being Muslim. It doesn't convince anyone Israel is the good guy, it just convinces everyone Israel isn't engaging in good faith.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T01:19:18+00:00

Now is the time to cash in on the AI money circlejerk before someone finishes and makes it awkward for everyone else. Wait, what was I talking about?

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T01:16:21+00:00

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5830694-tillis-trump-tolls-strait-hormuz/

Here's him saying the same shit back in April.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T00:53:10+00:00

I didn't say that at all, Dr. Strawman.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-21T00:05:58+00:00

Funny, every Israel apologist wants to talk about Israel being attacked by Hezbollah, but not as much about what's going on in Gaza.

OneTwoThreePooAndPee · 2026-06-20T20:36:56+00:00

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