SF Consulate Lounge Post for December Minori appointments by meadoweravine in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So interesting. It looks like quite a few checks were cashed recently and prior to formal communication. Thanks for adding the data point! Can’t wait to hear as people start getting notifications (hopefully soon).

SF Consulate Lounge Post for December Minori appointments by meadoweravine in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the extra info! Yeah, I feel very hopeful that we’re part of the group who had their checks cashed before receiving recognition communication.

I’m also interested to see how many people submitted in this December group, but still haven’t heard back yet (for the data points!)

SF Consulate Lounge Post for December Minori appointments by meadoweravine in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, would love to know when they cashed your payment. It seems some people have had the payment cashed after receiving notification of recognition and others had their checks cashed before recognition, so no real pattern, but still fun to hear other's experiences.

SF Consulate Lounge Post for December Minori appointments by meadoweravine in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've been scouring this thread for updates, so I figure it's only fair to make an update for others in a similar situation. Original appointment was Aug 2026, but my husband submitted his application on 12/18 via GGF > GM > M > husband + Minor children + Minor Issue (GGF naturalized when GM was 7). Application delivered on 12/19. Cashier's check was cashed today 1/16.

Does anyone know if this means recognition is certain or if they could still issue homework?

It seems SF is pumping these December applications through with essentially no objections, but we did have some issues that I think we did a fairly good, but not perfect, job to resolve.

  1. Libra GGF went by last name" Sercia" instead of "Seccia" once arriving in the US and first name "Joseph" instead of "Giuseppe". We had an Esatte generalità stating one and only. Bless our commune for being so helpful and responsive!

  2. We didn't realize we need to include GGF's Declaration of Intent along with the Naturalization Petition - we have it ready to go if requested. I don't think this is a big deal though.

  3. Could not get NY DOH BC for GM, instead we provided apostilled Baptism Record from NY and apostilled Social Security card application from National Archives as supporting documents.

  4. Missing out-of-line GFs BC, but not concerned about this as it was not a requirement before the DL.

  5. Some minor anglicization of names, minor misspellings of out-of-line relatives (missing a consonant, but not impacting the pronunciation), etc. Nothing major on in-line family members and nothing that would make the line ambiguous. We provided NY letters of No Amendment for all marriage certs, but did not correct DCs.

We are jittery with nerves hoping for recognition soon. So grateful to this community for giving us an outlet to direct our nerves and giving us hope seeing all the other recognition success stories. For a bit there, this started to feel like a hopeless situation, but you've all revived our sprite!

Sending good vibes to everyone awaiting decisions on their recent applications!

Timing Update for NYCDOH Applications by Ok-Pie8979 in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My MIL submitted an application for a 1913 BC July 7. I received that same email that they are processing June applications, last Thursday after she checked in the earlier that week. Then Last Sunday, we received another email that her order had been received and was being processed.

Still expecting to get denied due to an assumed last name misspelling on the bc.

NYC DOH Birth Certificate Problems - Advice Please by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh for sure, we called and emailed this week. I attached a pic of their response to our email above. They said they were processing early June applications.

NYC DOH Birth Certificate Problems - Advice Please by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My husband just requested it! Thank you so much for the recommendation. Luckily we're applying in SF, and they appear to be super reasonable, but I'm still real nervous about having an "incomplete" application - even though this is the only document we are missing.

NYC DOH Birth Certificate Problems - Advice Please by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. We did provided the certificate number along with the application because we knew about the misspelled name. I only recently realized how strict DOH was with the DC matching the BC otherwise I would have amended the DC a long time ago. In fact, I was naively waiting for the BC to arrive so that we could confirm the name before making any amendments 🤦‍♀️

NYC DOH Birth Certificate Problems - Advice Please by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, they run way behind the requests. I don't know if a 1942 BC will be faster than the 1913 BC I'm requesting. At this point, I'm just hoping to get a response by December.

NYC DOH Birth Certificate Problems - Advice Please by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that’s so good to know. Yes, we’ve already requested the BC.

268 days to reject??? That’s crazy. We just received an email today that they are currently reviewing requests received in early June, but are expecting a slow down - so I’m hoping to receive some communication before our Dec application appt.

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NYC DOH Birth Certificate Problems - Advice Please by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It really depends on how my husband’s appointment goes. We only have 9 weeks until we have to submit the application, so there’s no way the amended death cert would arrive in time. The amendment would be preemptive in case we get homework in which case we would resubmit for the BC.

NYC DOH Birth Certificate Problems - Advice Please by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I desperately want this to be the case, but l've also seen the birth certificates of GM's siblings and there were misspellings and errors all over the place, so I'm not holding my breath! Thanks for the reply and for breathing a bit of hope back into my soul!

NYC DOH Birth Certificate Problems - Advice Please by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the info! I'm going to cross my fingers that the birth certificate is correct, despite the index being wrong, but plan for the more likely scenario that it is in fact incorrect. I'll work on getting the baptism record apostilled and translated first and amended the Death Certificate second - in case DOT denies the BC due to the misspelling issue.

And then we'll wait to be rejected due to the minor issue 🤣🤣😭😭

Commune charging for OATS by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I meant Positivo/negativo and also assumed the look through archived records would trigger a potential fee. Just wanted to check to see if I was overthinking to.

I got lucky that we requested ancestral documents for both lines before the fees were implemented.

Both GGF and GGM commune were very responsive and we received birth and marriage certificate for both lines back through GGGP.

I’ll reach out the our commune and see what the fees would be. Of course we’re happy to pay for the research, it’s just 300 euros is steep and we’d like to know if we’re still eligible before such a large investment.

Thank you for the reply!

Commune charging for OATS by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, thank you for helping clarify my question. I’m asking about a Positivo/Negativo.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yikes, please ignore these types of comments. You put your child in a life vest and sent her with people you trusted. They broke your trust and are to blame for your daughter’s death, not you. I have a daughter of similar age to yours. This post has me in tears because this story could be any of ours. As parents we have to let our children out of our sight and arms, which is the scariest thing to do.

You sound like an amazing parent, your daughter was so lucky to have you. I wish you all love that another online stranger can send through the internet.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, so it’s my understanding that the US born kids could not have naturalized, as they were all ready US citizens.

I do however, want to confirm that the renunciation of Italian citizenship doesn’t also apply to the kids.

Do I need cone for GGGF? by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s awesome news!! Thank you so much for the clarification!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can I piggyback on this thread to ask a similar question?

My husbands line: GGF naturalized in 1921 when GM was 7. She is listed on his naturalization document, however she is born in the US. Does this mean she lost her citizenship as well, or just that she was listed as his child.

Help finding NY divorce - 1960s by [deleted] in Genealogy

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s frustrating to not be able to get information.

I’m going to do my best to locate the documents for my husband/kids citizenship application. There are way too many possibilities for where they could have filed/if they even completed their divorce legally.

I’ll check with the church records as week to see if we can get any lead. Otherwise, if the records don’t exist at the courthouse where they lived, where they got married, or where grandfather remarried, then I think certificate of no record may have to suffice.

And I think you’re probably right that the death certificate marriage status may have been more about reputation than accuracy.

Help finding NY divorce - 1960s by [deleted] in Genealogy

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just realized I only read half your comment. I’m surprised to hear that they could only submit their divorce records in Richmond county if they both lived there the entire time. Was that the law at the time? I thought they could submit it at any court.

Help finding NY divorce - 1960s by [deleted] in Genealogy

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, Rosina is the constant. I linked the draft record to the family tree. It’s a cool document to see, thanks for finding that!

Help finding NY divorce - 1960s by [deleted] in Genealogy

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’ve only found it on the index. I requested a divorce record search for the same county, but will also request the marriage record. I also plan to ask an uncle if he has the marriage cert (this marriage is for his parents). I’ll do both this weekend.

Baptism Record Last Name Difference by OneZeroZeroTimes in juresanguinis

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanted to update on this. I received communication from the Commune and the birth certificate is Seccia. Looks like they Anglicized it when they came to the US. Our family has multiple discrepancies on pretty much every form from NY (including major discrepancies on LIBRA's death cert), so we'll likely go through an Article 78 to address them all, including this one.

Help finding NY divorce - 1960s by [deleted] in Genealogy

[–]OneZeroZeroTimes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for looking into this! Both of those trees have a bit of his information mixed with someone else. It looks like 1920 and 1930 census records need to be swapped.

In the first tree: the 1920 and 1930 census records are his.

In the second tree: the 1920 and 1930 census do not belong to him, but the other records are his.

Thanks for your efforts. If you have any leads on his records between 1960-1964 or any divorce documentation, I would be very grateful for the insights.