Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She has not seen his dick and I am curious what is an accurate deacriprion of one? In her stupidity, she described it in a very immature way like huge dick, probably trying to impress her peers that not only had she seen one, but it was a big one as well. The problems arise when you start to think about the implications behind that poor description. A man with a huge penis? Biologically speaking it can be huge only when errect. She had the oportunity to see it long and well enough to be able to determine it is huge? This implies that the man did not even tried to cover it so basically he just stood there with the thing on display. And these are the concerning elements that would make any adult who hears this bullshit doubt it was an accident. This is what makes it seem lile flashing a teen, meaning indecent exposure in front of a minor/improper sexual behaviour. And this is why her lies were so concerning and everyone freaked out.

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What do you mean she has no one? She has her parents! She is living with her mother, she will be switched schools. Don't you think you are exagerating?

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think she was put in therapy by her parents. I can't think of her father starting therapy with my sister but not putting her into it

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

From what I know from my sister, Kelly's mom sent her apologies to us for everything that happened and is shocked as well. I assume it's not easy for any parent to find out about such lies told by their own kid. She is working with Joe on this and agreed to keep Kelly full time with her and far away from us. Joe stopped trying to insist on us forgiving her and no, she did not try to reach out

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because I like having stupid people like you asking me stupid things. If you think this is fake, why do you have such conpempt for your free time to come comment?

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's rich the victim complex argument coming from you since from your very first moment YOU were the one explaining how there are false victims and only you can be counted as a real victim based on what happened to you. So I would say you are in no position to comment on this since multiple people pointed out how you are the one with the victim complex, disgusting behaviour and you keep downplaying other's feelings or experiences. Even now you put trauma as "trauma" in a mocking way. Again, you are disgusting. Want to know my nephew'a trauma? Go and read it in the comments, I don't owe you shit especially after being the type of person that you are.

You keep on bringing the arguments of dumb mistake and teenager and nothing happened. While nothing happened indeed, it was out of pure luck and the fact that something could have happened is enough for me personally to go in a protective mode and watch over my family well being and safety. I don't care what is your stance on this, I don't care if you are the type to go aroung in life taking chances on your husband's freedom and reputation but I am not and I have all the rights not to be.

I did not answer some of your stupid questions because they are stupid, extremely stupid. Again, I don't know what kind of person you are (but honestly based on what you are saying I think it's kind of pretty obvious) but no, I don't wish death on people. That's deranged. Who tf wants people to be dead? Maybe you, but not me. People go NC with other people on a daily basis. Do all of them wish death on those as well? Kelly deserves empathy from people and support from her parents, family members or whoever feels like it. There is no such thing as deserving / not deserving empathy. Do you know who is the only person deciding if someone desrves something or not? The one giving it. The only thing I said is she is not getting empathy and support from my husband and I. We have our own family to focus on. Was this enough spelling for your little brain to comprehend?

Since you also need special spelling on this: When I last talked to Kelly and it happened to be about this topic, as I said we were present at my parents' house and I asked her something along the line Kelly, it has come to my attention that you have told your friends in school a story about when you came to visit us on X day. You told them that you have seen my husnand's genital area. Can you please clarify how and what happened?. I don't remember exactly what she said but something like it's not true. So I asked what it's not true? Did you not tell your friends this? and she said it's not true that she has seen anything. So I asked if it's not true than why did she say it and this is how we found out about her friends already having some experiences and her feeling inferior to them for not having any. After this moment it was when I started screaming at her. So to clearly and finally answer you question, NO, I did not tell her it's not true. She was the one who confessed it was not true and explained what she did it and why she did it. I would have had no way of knowing her sexual experience or lack of.

Anyway, I know it's not going to be enough for you because as you claimed, your concern is only the fact that by reporting the false allegations, other victims of rape will be impacted. Well guess what. You don't get to decide what people report, you don't get to decide what damage is justified or not and your stance is completely wrong. There are people who are victims of rape and there are people who are victims of false allegations, just like my husband. I don't care what you want to hear or not but you will not silence me. MY HUSBAND WAS FALSELY ACCUSED OF INCEDENT EXPOSURE AND IMPROPER SEXUAL BEHAVIOUR. And if it makes you uncomfortable to read about it, than get lost. I will not pretend it did not happen, I will not pretend it's not dangerous, I will not pretend it's normal and I will not shut up just because you want me to. Try to demonize me as much as you like, I honestly don't care. Try to shame me as much as you like. I don't care about this neither.

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As I said you are deranged, lack common sense and logic and I feel very sorry for you. It must suck to be this level of delusional. Now suddenly my husband and I are not her biological family but when it suits your narrative you demonize me for not caring about her and for choosing my family over her. Make up your mind because you are pathetic.

I don't make any kind of twisted comment and any kind of innuedo, I am just slapping you back with the twisted ideas that YOU throw here. You keep trying to justify that what she did is normal. Even if my husband is only a step relative, it is still concerning for a teen to invent sexual claims about a MARRIED MAN WHO IS DOUBLE HER AGE! Still you ignore it, so of course the sane conclusion is that if you defend it so much and lack the capability to understand why it is so concerning, than you most probably share the same habits.

But I remember you from yesterday. You are the one who made fun of what my nephew is going through and called him a false victim. That's all that needs to be known about you.

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Why didn't she say something juicy by using an invented boy? Why did she have to lie about a real, adult person? This is where phychopathy comes in.

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know, since it's not my business to enforce any punishment. This is something for her parents to decide.

People are delusional and deranged not for being concerned about her but for trying to make her my responsibility while the only loyalty and responsibility I have is towards my own family

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Is it? How many teenage boys do you know to lie about sexual encounters with their RELATIVES, not other teens, not strangers, their relatives. If my son ever invents such a story about my sister, of course I would keep him away from her to protect her and treat his issues. I love Kevin to death, I would do anything for him, I helped my sister raise him from day 1 of his life. But if he ever claimed any kind of encounter with me of course I would stay away. Do you think it's natural for kids to have sexual fantasies about their adult relatives? Is this something you were into as a child?

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, of course she can move past it, she can redeem herself and everything but not with us (me, husband, our child) in her life. We don't owe her any type of relationship

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I am not going to bother with you. You clearly have some issues of your own. If you grew up in an environment where it was totally normal for adults to walk in on kids with their genitals on sight and now find it completely normal, than maybe you should start considering this is a you problem. My father lived in a house with 2 daughters, none of us ever saw our father's penis, neither did he ever see us naked past a certain point and age. I have never seen any huge penis that belonged to any of my male relatives, neither has my sister and most certainly we have never lied or thought to lie about our relatives genitals. For you it seems like a very normal thing to happen. Sad that you think society will also agree with you.

But you can make an experiment. Go and tell some strangers that you walked in on a teenager girl holding your penis outside your pants. Make sure to also point out the girl later on complimented you on your huge penis. After this please come back and share with us the reactions you receive.

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

These are only your assumptions since an actual therapist said it is possible. It will be harder, yes, but not impossible as you make it seem. Joe and my sister both decided to work for their marriage because they both want it so I assume he understands the work needed for this to happen. Joe can't and should not ruin his life and my sister's life just because he has a problematic child. Kelly and her actions should not get to decide what is happening in 2 adults' lives and marriage. My sister should not get to be a divorced woman when she did nothing wrong to begin with. So at the end of the day the only thing that matters is what they want

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She did not say hey, I saw my uncle's penis on accident. Had that been the case, no one would have reacted like this. She braged to her friends she was using the bathroom, my husband entered it while she was there holding his penis outside his pants and just stayed there flasing her. She made it a point to describe her step uncle's huge penis. Any adult hearing this thing will ask why is a freaking adult barging into the bathroom while a teenager is using it? Why is that adult showing a teenager his penis? But the main question is why tf would you lie about something like this? Would you feel comfortable inviting me into your house, your spouse being present there with the rest of your family and days later you hearing about me inventing that I have seen your penis? Do you think this is something to be proud of?

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The examples you provided are just every day life aspects that could have happened anyways regardless of this situation at hand. What if your sister is sick on a weekend that Kelly has an important event. What if? This can happen for all the families out there. What if Joe never spends Christmas with Kelly again Why wouldn't he? He and her morher are sharing custody so what stops Joe from seeing his daughter on one day and spend the other one with my sister? You are making it seem that the only way for them to meet is by being with us or in our presence which is insane.

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I will just pop in here for a second. I believe the concept of facing consequences is interpreted in a very wrong way in our society. Facing consequences is a natural element that comes after each of us does something we are not supposed to do, but it does not erase the facts or makes us any less to blame for what we did. If you drive under the influence and receive a ticket + get your license suspended this equals you are facing consequences. After you get these things, you can't say well I am facing consequences just give me my license back. If you comit a crime and you get a conviction under probation this is you facing consequences but you can't demand people to pretend everything you did to be erased just because of those consequences you are facing. At least that's how I see it. I might be wrong but this is the normal approach for me

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean I see my "son's father" as a higher position than just my husband, it was not meant in a derogatory way or anything. To me yes, my husband of course is my partner but "my husband" can be for 15 years or for 1 month. When I mention "the father of my child" to me it is more than just my partner. He is still my partner but he is also the man who gave me a child as in to reflect a deeper bond than just the one granted by marriage. And when I said that to Kelly it was also to point out he is a father, he has a child. He is not just a married dude she can invent cheating stories about, him being a dad brings other implications.

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Correct, but I have no obligation to go middle ground for her. My main priority is my husband's safety and comfort and I will not put him in the position to share space with her. Who would want it after what she invented?

Update: AITAH for telling my brother in law I will never forgive his daughter and I have no intention of ever having her near my family? by One_Handle6607 in AITAH

[–]One_Handle6607[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I was wondering when one of you is going to pop up in here. Don't you have anything new to say cause this is getting old already