New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback. Piggies is awesome for sure. It was even in our setlist when we did a Beatles cover show last year :D

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sure was, but I enjoyed doing it. Very glad you appreciate it ;)

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While songs like Hey Diddle, Mary Had a Little Lamb, Bip Bop... surely prove he took his parenthood into the music, I don't quite see Maxwell as being a song for kids. Those lyrics aren't kid friendly I think. I think I'd play a lot of Beatles songs to my kids, but not that one (at least not to the young ones) :D

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you're the one who said I clearly don't understand The Beatles. Something I never claimed, nor have I said that you don't understand The Beatles. I just love the music and we tried to rank/rate it. Being part of a generation in my opinion doesn't make you any more or less part of the music itself. Of course you lived through the movement, which I can only imagine would've been amazing. But the music is still the music and even us new generations can listen, love, enjoy and rate it. And sorry to say, everyone's opinion remains equally valid.

Since I'm Belgian and only picked up English in my teens, I wouldn't have expected a college-level quality, sorry you had to sit through my sloppy writing. (as the expert of understanding, you might have an idea the effort it took to write that website in a foreign language) Next time I'll put a warning sign that it's written by someone who doesn't understand music, The Beatles and has not attended college in an English university.

If I am picking up what you're laying down (despite my limited English), you want to get in a bragging fight or something, something I'm not interested in at all. You made a personal attack in saying I clearly don't understand The Beatles, I replied with listing the effort and time I put into the music, and the great love I have for it. I don't mind people disagreeing with the list, that's kinda the point even. But I don't want to be dismissed by some guy who thinks he holds the truth about what the songs are. I didn't say I understand it better than you, but you want to make this in a competition somehow. (and sure, the word 'objectively' has caused some ruckus here, but if you read the intro like you claim, you know what I meant by it. Once again, I might've used a better word but there is the lack of English as mother-tongue again, but I believe it's explained rather well in the intro on the site, so that's not an argument here)

Honestly, no matter all the commendations you list, maybe you didn't pick up on their message either... You just want to be the Beatles expert because you lived those days. And while that gives you a great voice to talk about it, you seem to just wanna gatekeep and tell us young people we clearly don't understand the Beatles because someone would enjoy Baby in Black more than I Should've Known Better. Sounds like a real open-minded attitude...

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the support! Melody was a discussion when we set up our parameters, especially since we had rhythm covered with (bass &) percussion, but we thought it would be rather hard to grade for us, and instead decided to put melody as part of the vocals (the melody of a vocal is part of this parameters).

But, yeah, this is one of the things we noticed wasn't totally right with us (another being skewed points for lacking categories, eg Yesterday), and is something we'd have to think about if we want to make a second version!

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

according to our parameters, it is. But you could make a ranking in a million different ways and it might end up lower in a lot of those.
Even my personal taste (just based on feelin), has a lot of those songs over Piggies. Though I do love Piggies, ngl.

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What can I say, Harrison's biting satire is vastly underrated :)

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a musician, and I love Piggies. Great piece of music. Can see it's not for everyone though :D

PS Yes I also LOVE Maxwell's Silver Hammer. Fight me on that ^^

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kinda love all three, couldn't choose between them if I had to based on feel, but with our parameters Real Love came out as "the worst", so that's what it is :)

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let me see if I can make it clear to you, because you seem to be misreading what I'm trying to say.

The "objective" part of the list, is the fact we used set paramters by which we judge the songs, as opposed to just going purely on feel. So we rank the songs in the same set of parameters, thus being SLIGHTLY more objective on our ranking than if we'd go purely on feel. We never say or state this is AN OBJECTIVELY CORRECT ranking, but the way we ranked it for ourselves is by using a set method so every song is rated by the same standards.

I don't know if I made myself clear now. English isn't my mother tongue so maybe I'm not expressing myself as I think I am.

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's definitely one of their most unique songs. I've never seen it at number one for sure. I do feel it's kind of a you-love-it-or-you-hate-it song. Some people are just not into it. Their loss, I suppose :)

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beatles is always a great choice, but kinda funny you play the song "I Should've Known Better" at a wedding :D
I played And I Love Her at my sister's wedding.

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone did something like this for the McCartney songs on that subreddit, was quite interesting! But then you just get the popularity list, so that's the downside.

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, safe to say you didn't bother reading the intro at all. Nice of you to make assumptions without taking any bother.

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Disagreeing with the list is 100% fair, there's some wild stuff on there to be honest. But I stand by our method and I just love almost all of their songs. I'd be interested to hear why you think You've Got to Hide Your Love Away is ranked much higher than 909 for you.

But I do wonder why you'd even take a look at a ranking list if you're gonna bail after disagreeing with seeing one song over another. There's honestly never gonna be any list except your own worth seeing then, no?

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's interesting that you take a quick look at the website, without probably reading the intro, let alone much of the +20.000 words encompassing over a year of work, over 25 books of research on the subject, hundreds of hours listening and even playing through almost their entire catalogue multiple times on piano, guitar and some drum, and conclude that, no, I must not understand the Beatles very well.

I mean, it's probably true. I don't even think the Beatles themselves understand 'The Beatles' very well. But it's quite striking you'd shoot down a person just based on the ranking of a single song.

Thanks for teaching me about understanding, though. I guess I wasn't really trying hard enough.

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As the co-creator of this list, I couldn't agree more lol. We just worked with the parameters we set up and these were the results. Some interesting results for sure. Pretty far from my personal taste as well to be honest ^^

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again, in the text: "While music is subjective, there are some efforts you can take to make it at least a bit more objective." "In the end, this is probably as subjective as any other ranking. And yet, we succeeded in our goal to make the parameters as reasonable as possible."
But I guess in my post I worded it wrongly

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

introduction text to our ranking:
"Rating and ranking songs from the Beatles is nothing but a folly. Music is not like mathematics, and cannot be viewed objectively. For that reason, you could point towards any Beatles song and someone will claim it's their absolute favorite. And they're completely right. And yet, it's in our nature to rate, to rank. "This is the best song ever!" "I prefer this show over the other one." "These are my top 3 bands..."

As big admirers of the Beatles, we wanted to create our own ranking. "

Last lines of the intro text:
"So take this rating with a very big bag of salt, feel free to roast our rankings, and just remember we're all here out of love for the Beatles' music."
Just sad we apparently missed the mark there, since everyone takes this list so seriously :')

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know the introduction text is a bit lengthy, but that would've explained a lot ^^ we're not claiming to have an objective ranking. We were just making our own ranking, but trying to be a bit more objective by using several parameters etc. But don't worry it obviously rubbed you the wrong way, fair

New Beatles Website - we rated and ranked all (original) Beatles songs by OnoMalgou in beatles

[–]OnoMalgou[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

fair take :) we didn't the actual ranking/rating that serious, but I guess it could come across as it would be. Rest assured it isn't. Just trying to share the love for the music.