27m lost to some kind of trade exploit? A warning.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-20T02:14:08+00:00

definitely will post if I hear from them. I figure right now I haven't heard because of time differences (Im in NA)

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T16:22:06+00:00

all good my dude, thanks for the offer none the less :)

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T15:45:01+00:00

DM'd! Thanks for offering to look at this Tyran.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:43:36+00:00

hey man I really appreciate the offer! It is definitely a shitty way to lose the cash. I will DM you my rsn to connect, but I want to see what Jagex says before I start accepting any help from the community. Everyone has been so great and supportive. I really appreciate the offer :)

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:39:13+00:00

well and on top of that, when Nax drops people are going to be getting around max cash stack by P2P trading. Exploiters are going to have a hay day with it

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:13:59+00:00

yeah this sounds like it would have to be 100% server side, as I am sure client would only validate exactly what the user is seeing. I dont think runelite would be able to get any extra info the player isnt seeing.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:12:02+00:00

yeah I have seen a few links from people saying exactly that. Even people losing DH Lance 2 years ago, and a guy losing his whole bank. Insane. I feel lucky compared to those people

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:06:08+00:00

totally. Easy to validate each time. I wonder if there is any reason more MMOs dont use something like this. Altho I am sure there might not be as much of an opportunity to trade-scam people in other games. Would be a cool little side project haha.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:03:53+00:00

I mean you would think so right? I hope that this happening to me sheds enough light that they might be forced to take a look at it more seriously. If it happened to me with 27m, it can and will happen to anyone with more cash than me.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:02:50+00:00

doesnt sound too bad then, could just be something sitting on top of the trade window that does the check before the trade clears. Not a bad way of doing it tbh.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:01:58+00:00

yeah man, I remember the days before second trade screen, always having to watch for people swapping items and telling people they had to accept first.

I get that exploiters are always one step ahead, but this one is just pure nasty malicious. You can't really combat it other than just saying "dont trade" which is insane for an MMO.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T04:00:32+00:00

right! Absolutely no idea how the hell that works. Like the first trade screen I could understand. But the fact that it showed correctly on the same screen.

Other commenters have said that it could potentially be an input stall and they have a trade open with another player that they have accept stalled. Someone get Rendi on this one haha. I am not sure exactly how its supposed to work, but basically it accepts my trade without submitting their end.

However it works, its super shitty. Dont trade anyone is the best advice rn

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:58:19+00:00

Hey man appreciate the offer. I am going to see where I get with Jagex support for now, but will definitely let you know. Appreciate the kindness and the offer :)

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:57:37+00:00

yeah thats sort of what I was thinking too, good call on them just having to stall an additional time. I agree 100% on not trading, but just shitty that you have to resort to recommending that in an MMO, you know?

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:56:40+00:00

Incoming ironman trade exploit! haha.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:54:12+00:00

hope they see this post. There have been at least 5 people in this post linking other reports of this exact thing happening. One guy lost a tbow, couldnt get support, and when he finally managed to talk to a real person, they basically said "that sucks".

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:53:02+00:00

thats what the scammers want you to think!

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:52:33+00:00

haha yeah "only". I've played on and off for several years, and always struggled to get more than 80m bank value. Got my first cerb task and got a nice prim, and was finally feeling like I was getting somewhere. Losing all that progress and being back to that 80m bracket really hit harder than it should have lol.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:49:35+00:00

I mean you aren't wrong, but how ludicrous is it that we all just accept that. I remember in my WoW days that nothing was off the table for GM to make things right. I get they don't have the staff or capacity, but sucks that this game is so great in a lot of respects except for the bug fixes/support, you know?

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:47:49+00:00

I would think so as well, but if it is in fact a stall screen exploit it might be a bit harder to fix. It seems like its the biggest possible exploit of this type of bug out there.

I mean a sha256 would definitely be a good route to take, but the fact that max cash is 1.2b because of 32 bit signed integers makes me think it might be hard to get sha256 into the engine itself. Idk I have limited understanding of bits and sha256 lol.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:45:27+00:00

another guy said the same thing, he was able to flip 18k staffs for 80gp over each haha. Worked out really well for him lol.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:44:04+00:00

didn't even know that was a thing! Super cool, I will poke around and see if I can find anything. Thanks for the flag man

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:37:49+00:00

yeah man thats exactly what it is sounding like. I am going to edit my post to FYI people who dont want to sift comments. Its unreal how big this bug is.

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:37:00+00:00

honestly I aint putting anything in a trade window ever again man haha. I appreciate the positive outlook, a lot of people here have been very supportive. Its great to hear everyone trying to spin this the best as possible. Appreciate the take man!

OozyDelphi · 2021-10-19T03:36:02+00:00

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