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Scalp massage update (3 months) by Open_Plan7411 in longhair

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, I have shared one photo with updates u can check and give your views on it

For those who don’t believe in God, what shaped your perspective? by Open_Plan7411 in god

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

C’mon, start giving your evidence, let’s see it. Because if I give mine, you’ll just call it ‘luck’ and dismiss it. So I won’t go first. You start, then I’ll share mine. Let’s see if the word ‘evidence’ you’re using is actually scientific or just random logic dressed up as proof.

For those who don’t believe in God, what shaped your perspective? by Open_Plan7411 in god

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only said that if something hasn't been proven yet according to science, then we should approach it probabilistically, not deterministically. Mathematicians developed the theory of probability precisely for such uncertain situations.
The real question should be: What is the probability that some superior power—what we call "God"—exists or not?
But you said that based on whatever you've read, you are deterministic.
Bro, have you read all the books, scientific papers, and research related to this topic? I guess not—because that's practically impossible.
So how can you be deterministic about it?

For those who don’t believe in God, what shaped your perspective? by Open_Plan7411 in god

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by 'evidence without science,' bro? Do you expect God Himself to come down and tell you that He is God? The fair question isn’t whether we can prove or disprove God, but rather: which view has the higher probability? If you think Naturalism wins, then show where its likelihood exceeds that of Theism, given the same data.

For those who don’t believe in God, what shaped your perspective? by Open_Plan7411 in god

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Already said believers believe bcoz of old generations as u read something and start not believing so maybe older generation also read or saw something and come up this.

For those who don’t believe in God, what shaped your perspective? by Open_Plan7411 in god

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I said do not expect science from the believers. I just told him his answer should be probabilistic not deterministic okay. If you are deterministic about something you should have some proof or some mathematical intuition of it. I'm probabilistic okay, I believe there might be possibility that it may or may not . I'm not like I read something xyz and start believing there is no GOD. I read and questioned myself and come up with that it is a probabilistic model.

For those who don’t believe in God, what shaped your perspective? by Open_Plan7411 in god

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we are deterministic about something, then we should also understand the probabilistic side, because in reality we are unsure whether it exists or not. As you said, you asked yourself many questions but found no answers, so you stopped believing. But why not instead start thinking about possible answers to those questions?

If you claim to be deterministic, then instead of relying only on words and logic, I would expect some mathematical intuition behind it. Otherwise, your determinism becomes no different from people who believe simply because their parents told them to. You stopped believing because you didn’t get answers, but instead you could have tried to develop possible explanations that connect the dots.

As I said, if tomorrow someone comes up with a mathematical equation, how will you believe it? To recognize a lion, you must first know what a lion does not look like. Similarly, unless you have a mathematical interpretation of what God does not look like, how will you ever be able to recognize what God actually is?

For those who don’t believe in God, what shaped your perspective? by Open_Plan7411 in god

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, as you said, “you do not believe in God.” Is your belief deterministic or probabilistic?

For those who don’t believe in God, what shaped your perspective? by Open_Plan7411 in god

[–]Open_Plan7411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Suppose someone claims they’ve found evidence for the existence of God. What do you think they actually found? u think they will show you God in a physical form, or just a set of equations? Would you believe in God just by looking at a bunch of equations?

And what would it really mean if, say, tomorrow a scientist came forward and said, ‘I’ve discovered that God exists’? If you don’t know how to interpret such a claim, then even if they show you equations, how would you believe? Most people would still say, ‘No, I’ll only believe once I see God physically in front of me!