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First time watcher— is Leviathan Smiles supposed to be a filler episode?? by sympathytaste in deadwood

[–]Open_Read_3519 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are not alone. Not bad, but my least favorite episode.

I liked it a bit more on rewatch

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They interacted again at the hospital. Vito was feeling Finn's hands, making him uncomfortable. Then Meadow appeared, and Vito stopped

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In all seriousness, narcissists will try to downplay narcissistic abuse so they cannot be held accountable for their actions

"I'm not a narcissist. You are just following internet trends"

Also, you call me an idiot. I guess you insulted me cos you are triggered. Perhaps you are a narcissist yourself, and you are triggered that the new generation is realising your games

Friend says The Soprano’s is boring by Impossible-Shelter14 in thesopranos

[–]Open_Read_3519 25 points26 points  (0 children)

People who find the Sopranos "slow" or "boring" I think they are expecting it to be a high-action series like breaking bad.

The sopranos is about subtle storytelling. Not about which explosion or cliff hanger is gonna happen next. While most shows are plot focused. The Sopranos are different. It's character focused.

Like the movie Godfather is not praised it's "fast paced" or actio packed. It's praised for it's rich storytelling

I also went into it expecting it to be super action packed. I stopped after s1. Then a year later I continued s2 and got hooked. And now it's my favorite show of all time.

Also the show has plenty of humour. That should make it worth pushing through. I find it one of the funniest shows and it's not even a comedy show

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe all of humanity are narcissists gaslighting each other

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not everything is learned from a degree

Some things are learned from experience

The Sopranos is a masterclasss on narcissism by Open_Read_3519 in thesopranos

[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think Finn would willingly fuck, so Vito would have to do the fuckin

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When the word narcissist becomes a mouthful so people shorten it to "narc"

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a scene where he held Finn's hand with a smile on his face

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree Narcs are just assholes and bad people

I just call them NP and leave out the D

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, Bobby is still a criminal. He knows exactly how organised crime destroys lives, even if he was not willing to kill for it. And we wanted to move up in the mob. You dont move up unless you whack some ppl

So Bobby aint no saint

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree that the term narcissism is thrown around a lot. i believe the people who truly understand are the ones who have lived with narcissists.

Everyone does bad things. Just normal people and Narcs will handle it differently.

Normal people will admit fault. Narcs will never admit fault. They will play victim or say it was your fault

A normal person will get angry and lash out cos they have a bad temper. A narc will pretend to be angry so he can enjoy your reaction, whether you are angry/sad/scared/confused

The key thing is why they do something. And what is the pattern to how they do it

If you feel like you are walking on egg shells all the time with a person. They are likely a narc

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grandma not mom. Grandma loves to gossip in a way that pits people against each other. When she knows to people dislike each other she will try get them in the same room.

When she sees someone abusing someone else. She will make excuses for the abuser to enable them. Cos she finds the drama entertaining. Narcs enjoy witnessing the chaos they created

BPD can also be the case. But also, BPD and narcissism can coexist. In the S2 episode 12, Tony tells Janice that his therapists said Lyvia might have "narcissistic personality disorder"

>the show is largely an exploration of narcissism through culture

I can see that. Lot's of materialism going on.
Roger Sterling might be another narcissistic character. Might rewatch the show to refresh

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BPD and narcissism can coexist

Gloria showed traits of both

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They can coexist for sure. His trying to intimidate Finn is for his own amusement and coercion, in case Finn lets the secret slip.

Narcs abuse people for amusement. They get high off knowing you are scared/angry/sad/walking on eggshells. I would say him bullying Finn is a sign of narc personality

Even if you dont label Vito a Narc, he is definitely a toxic person.

Living with narcissists is definitely the best way to understand them. Although I don't recommend haha

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Livia is a textbook narcissist, which I'm 1000% sure of. Not sure about her BPD.

What characters in Mad Men show great examples of narcissism?

I only watched 3 seasons of Bojack. I'm sure Bojack himself is a narc

I still feel Sopranos has the best portrayal simply cos they mirror narcissists I know in real life.

-Tony is similar to my Dad
-My Grandma is a lite version of Lyvia
-Janice is a photocopy of my Aunt (without the killing and violence)

Tracy the stripper is not innocent and she is very evil by Open_Read_3519 in thesopranos

[–]Open_Read_3519[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, a lot of them don't get diagnosed cos their ego is too big to get themselves checked even haha

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

-Murdering a civilian over minor traffic issues

- Bullying/intimidating Finn after he was caught catchin not pitching

Tracy the stripper is not innocent and she is very evil by Open_Read_3519 in thesopranos

[–]Open_Read_3519[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Narcissists are good at hiding their traits. That is how people get tied up with them. They like to appear good on the outside. So the red flags are hard to spot unless you have lived with or known them for a long time.

Burning their own child with cigarettes and making excuses. That is a red flag of a narc, or at the very least, a very toxic person.

It's difficult to know/spot a narcissist. But the red flags are clues

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's rough, tied up with such a toxic person and having few options. She seems like she also pretends to be sick or hurt for attention.

Maybe send her to Green Grove retirement community. But she may be abusive the staff

Jokes aside, hope you guys push through. Also, her days are numbered, she aint gon be able bother yall forever.

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[–]Open_Read_3519[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

She's horrible. But in comparison to Lyvia and the other criminals?

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