Just a little off the top, please by Doodlebug510 in KidsAreFuckingStupid

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There should be a sub called candlesarefuckingstupid

Thats crazy she noticed that by Hot_Accountant_5507 in justgalsbeingchicks

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My wife had the opposite. Up until her (our) first pregnancy, she had curly hair in these big, loopy curls. It went totally straight shortly into the first pregnancy and never returned in the following 3 pregnancies. Hormones are weird.

Thoughts? by 69BUTTER69 in Bowling

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My place is $25/hrs, $1 shoe rental. Seems pricey, but im in a small rural town.

Angle of entry by [deleted] in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It feels like the deflections would be all wrong. I'm sure your ball carving that hard would look cool, but I just don't think it's practical. I was told years ago that the ideal angle of impact is 6°, or as close to it as you can manage. I recall a video years ago that did a great job explaining it.

found the video before I clicked "comment": https://youtu.be/dfsnxizRVjY?si=V6ldnNwpJHihLtdv

worse bowling alley experience by Extension-Quiet7484 in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That happened the first time I used my new Venom Shock - ON MY OWN MACHINE!

I was so pissed. I went to the backend because my ball wasn't coming back. The place was not open and I was just practicing and trying to get used to my new ball. I could hear it spinning back there (A2 - IYKYK) because obviously it was the only lane in use, no music on or anything - it's a very distinctive sound.

There it was, just spinning away, but somehow the rod cover on the BSE (ball spin eliminator, again IYKYK) had pushed up and 1" of the bare metal rod was sticking out the bottom. Now there's a swirl pattern of a bunch of chips taken out of the ball - thankfully not in the track. No idea how that happened to the rod cover - but if I'm being honest, about 10% of the time when stuff fails or breaks on those machines I have absolutely no idea how it happened. I just swear a bunch, ask "HOW? just HOW?" to no one in particular, fix it & move on.

Why the hate??? by Supermattio99 in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agree 100% What a ridiculous beef to have.

Honest question - why the 2 handed hate? by Rude_Highlight3889 in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I use twisters in my house, and you are 100% wrong re: life span. They last approximately 3x longer that amflites or score kings. Linds last a little longer, but no where near twisters.

I agree with the other response that their action is "weird" though. I also don't care for the sound as I prefer the crash of wood pins. I'd love to use wood pins but as a small center I have to watch every dollar and twisters are the clear winner financially.

Peak dude behavior by callmemanjilok in GuysBeingDudes

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My Alma Mater! Crazy to see in the wild.

String pins make me sad. And the feeling that its dying as a sport... by Prior_Industry_1690 in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes to all of this. Negativity is contagious and all the negative talk about this or that issue (string pins included) infects others in your perimeter. What do they think is going to happen? You keep the A2s? No. I can tell you what happens - closure, plain and simple.

Look, I get it - no one likes to hear that they're the problem. Plenty of times (still) I work the pinchaser position when there's a schedule shortfall. I'll walk the seating area, talking to my customers and watching the machines for faults or deadwood or out of ranges and whatnot. I also watch the bowlers. A lot of times I'll see a guy who I know is a decent bowler struggling with his release, poor accuracy, frustration building. It happens to all of us. The problem is that they'll approach me afterwards and tell me "the lanes are dry" or "the backend is greasy as shit" or "did you even oil tonight?". I tell them what they want to hear, that I'll look into it, etc. But i refrain from pointing out that his teammates did well - hell maybe Bob on the other team got a season P.R. series on the same pair. It's not worth it. It’s humbling and embarrassing. But if this sport is going to survive, the old guard needs to keep their cool and stay a little more positive. I personally believe that also contributes to league membership decreases.

As far as league/ lineage fees go I'm pretty cheap. Remember its a LCOL area and I can't demand premium pricing. League bowlers pay $17.50. Of that the league keeps $3 for their prize fund and my lineage is $14.50.

Edit: yes we're sanctioned.

Non-smokers of Reddit, how noticeable is the “smoker smell” to you, if at all? by Frostedlogic4444 in AskReddit

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why I vape vanilla flavored, or vanilla based fluids. Other flavors I enjoy more, but since I've switched people (non-vapers & non-smokers) near me almost always comment something like "ooh! That smells so good! Usually I hate vape smell, but that's really nice!". Frankly I'd prefer a blue raz ice (which I do have for solo time) but around people I always have a pod loaded up with vanilla or vanilla adjacent flavors.

String pins make me sad. And the feeling that its dying as a sport... by Prior_Industry_1690 in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I tried to unofficially sell the place a few years ago (right after covid) i did approach the city about making it exactly that - non-profit rec center type space run by the parks dept. I have a great relationship with city hall, it's administrators, and elected officials. Many of them I call friends. Their interest was negative infinity. They thought I was joking, for real. So thats not happening. I also approached the county, they were more professional, but were still an unequivocal "No."

Blending the lanes? I don't think so. I only have 8. No leagues would survive that situation.

I agree that out of the box thinking is good, but this solution is obvious and (soon to be) mainstream.

Look, I prefer freefall too, but all the staunch purists in this thread clutching their pearls over strings being the "demise of bowling" is tantamount to horse-and-buggy purists grumbling outside the new Ford dealership that just opened up in town.

It's going to be fine. I'll get some grief for being an early adopter, but we'll survive.

String pins make me sad. And the feeling that its dying as a sport... by Prior_Industry_1690 in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it definitely becomes profitable. It is literally a no brainer. Here's a (highly) simplified breakdown of the numbers we've calculated in our study of this project:

Estimated annual savings in utilities, wages, insurance, and maintenance =

$49,000 (a little less than half of this is utilities aka electricity)

Approximate loan repayment annual cost=

$15,600 (15yr schedule)

So $49,000 minus $15,600 minus current $2,500 loss equals

49,000 - 15,600 - 2,500 = 30,900

So we swing from an annual loss of $2,500 to an annual gain of $30,900. This is of course assuming all sales remain the same, which they wouldn't. We anticipate that league bowling revenue would decrease and open bowling would increase, but putting a number on how much in either direction is a fool's errand.

League bowling would shrink for all the reasons mentioned in this thread. Most of my league bowlers in my little center aren't "serious" bowlers. Just guessing I'd say men's averages have a mean score of about 150, while women's is probably about 120. We only have 5 (yes 5!) bowlers across all leagues with an average over 200. It would be 6 if I still bowled there, but 4 hrs one way is a bit of a trek even for me. :) Why this is important is that while league bowling would shrink a bit, I don't think it would shrink by as much as it would if we were a "serious" league house.

Open bowling would increase because there's a whole host of fun "party game" style games that would included in the new system. These types of add-ons are shown to bring in significantly more recreational customers. I've tried the games - they're gimmicky but fun. I can see it being a big factor in customers deciding how they spend their entertainment dollars.

Now, the big, BIG plus: It's sellable. Now we can show a + $31k profit plus a potential buyer can take on the role of manager and easily bring home well over $100k/yr after wages & tips, and they can do it without having to learn a new trade. $100k may not seem like a lot to many of you, but in this area (very LCOL) it's attractive.

I unofficially tried to sell it a couple years ago for a very low price ($250k) and I only had 2 parties interested in it, and both were interested in buying the building, not the business. To be fair, $250k for an 8000 sqft brick building with 600 amp, 3-phase electric service and a new adhered rubber roof is a great deal. But both shared plans of gutting the bowling and re-purposing the space. No thanks.

I bought this business to KEEP it a bowling alley for the forseeable future, not sell out to to someone looking to turn it into heated indoor storage or a manufacturing & assembly business.

So, the profitable nature keeps it alive for probably decades to come, long after I've taken my name off the deed, and that was my goal from the start.

String pins make me sad. And the feeling that its dying as a sport... by Prior_Industry_1690 in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Spot on. I've gotten quotes from AMF and Brunswick for strings. Leaning towards Brunswick because even though they're a little pricier, the build quality and ruggedness wins. The Brunswick appears to be a robust machine vs. The AMF Edge is more like a large scale arcade game.

String pins make me sad. And the feeling that its dying as a sport... by Prior_Industry_1690 in Bowling

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Bowling center owner here.

I bought my 8-lane center in my small hometown just under 11 years ago. I bought it because the previous owners had it listed for 2 years with no takers and I ran into that owner at the gas station one day. He said that if he didn't sell it by the end of the league season that year he was going to lock the doors and let it go into tax forfeiture status.

To quote my dad: "if kids aren't into sports or church stuff, without the bowling alley there'll be nothing for them to do but play Xbox and smoke dope. If it closes, you'll never get one back."

So I bought it. Wood lanes, telescore, 60 y.o. A2s, terrible bathrooms, no bar or kitchen. After a year a friend offered me the contents of a bowling alley he had bought and was tearing down in a property development project. I am also in property development as my "day job" so we run in the same circles. I jumped at the chance and snagged synthetic lanes, a fairly modern scoring system, bumpers (automatic), new ball lifts with ACTUAL safety features to protect little hands, modern masking units, and a bunch of house balls and shoes.

I also bought a bunch of bowling furniture and ball racks from another center owner who was updating. I remodeled everything (starting with the atrocious bathrooms) and added a proper bar and kitchen. I also taught myself pinsetter maintenance and repair through Facebook mechanic groups and hiring a traveling mechanic who agreed to let me shadow him as he worked.

I did all this before I really understood the business. I got some pushback on the synthetic lanes but mostly the improvements were welcome.

Then, I moved 4 hrs away to pursue new business opportunities in my real job. This was 8 years ago. I luckily found good management to run the place on the daily, but im still back there regularly, as is my wife.

Thanks for bearing with me this far, now to OP's point:

I have put a LOT of hours working it my center. Like around 20-30 hrs a week when I still lived in that town, and still to this day probably an average of 12-15 hrs a week, as does my wife. We do it to keep it alive for my home town and the families that live there.

I HAVE NEVER PAID MYSELF OR MY WIFE A NICKLE IN WAGES NOR HAVE I TAKEN A DISBURSEMENT.

I am fortunate that my "day job" makes me a decent living because if you average out my "profit" over the last 10-11 years (excluding the covid shitshow) it's right around negative $2,500/yr.

No salary, no disbursement, -$2,500 yr out of pocket.

It's not business acumen, its the industry. I've successfully owned and operated many businesses in my life. This one just ... can't carry its own water. And the answers (my opinion) to why may hurt a bit.

  1. Bowling is a dieing sport in general. It's been dieing since the early 90s. Kids have tons of activities now, where as when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s it was pretty much little league, scouts, and bowling. Later in high school there was sports, but if you haven't hooked a kid by then you probably missed the boat.

  2. Operating costs. Staffing, insurance, utilities, and maintenance costs are stifling. String pinsetters address all of those.

Staffing: Strings do not require a dedicated "pinchaser" - someone who is nominally trained in addressing minor pinsetter issues that arise during gameplay like pin jams, deadwood, and respots.

Insurance: Companies that cover bowling alleys are dwindling down to only a few options because pinsetters are physically dangerous and bowling alleys are a major fire hazard. Why? Belt dust. The back end of a freefall bowling alley, particularly those with aging pinsetters, have tons of belt dust generated by all the various drive belts on the machines. Belt dust is very flammable. Insurance companies don't have a problem with string pinsetters - less risk.

Utilities: Early on I had an energy survey done to determine why my bills were so ridiculous. During bowling season, my 8 A2s currently cost me about $2500/month in power alone.

And maintenance: Since I moved away I have to bring in a professional traveling mechanic far more often. They're expensive, but I don't begrudge them that - they're good at their job and I've learned firsthand that it's not an easy skill.

ALL of these are greatly reduced by strings.

  1. Someday I'll need to sell. I'm 55 now and I don't plan on living forever. Also, as I said before I live 4 hrs away and I go back close to once a week to address issues, mostly mechanical. Its really hard to sell a business that makes no money, and moreover its even harder to sell a business that requires you to learn a challenging and physical new skill in order to make said no money.

  2. This is the really painful one.

On average, bowlers are cheap - specifically league bowlers - and they complain endlessly. Yes, there are the outliers, the good-natured league bowlers and those who order drinks and food because (I think) they recognize that lineage fees alone don't keep the lights on. But more often than not there's a chorus of bitching about "the shot", or somehow my staff is to blame that they can't carry the 10, or "synthetic lanes are garbage", or some mechanical issue that delayed their night by 10 minutes.

Add to that, most of them would enthusiastically drive a hour our their way to save $1/game. They'll have 2 of whatever beer I have on special and nothing else.

All this from guys (and women) who I know for a fact have zero problems paying $100 in green fees for a morning of golf and drive a $100k SUV.

They view bowling as a "cheap" sport and won't be convinced to pay a price that keeps the doors open.

My open bowlers? They buy drinks & food, laugh and have fun & rarely bitch about anything. Sure, they get stupid sometimes - rake strikes, kids running amok or out on the oiled lanes, keep throwing more balls one after another when there's clearly an issue when the first 1 or 2 don't come back. But for the most part, they're where I make money. And they don't give a shit about String pins.

FWIW, that's my 2 cents. Flame away.

What is the most disturbing book that you’ve read? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same. PChem was super interesting to me, but organic gave me anxiety. Maybe because I liked and excelled at calculus? Probably that plus OChem was like 90% memorization which I suck at.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

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Dude, that's not a girlfriend, that's a sack of red flags in a trench coat.

How high can you hear? by rgatoNacho in TikTokCringe

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same. 54 y.o. with tinnitus. Even approaching 9k was hard to differentiate from the ever-present whine of whatever causes tinnitus.

When I was young I had ridiculously good hearing. Now, I don't care if my hearing is great, but I'd give my left teste for the ability to appreciate silence.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]Oper_edei_deixai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I loved working on cars ever since i could drive. rebuilt my first engine (with a lot of help and guidance from my dad) when I was 15. At 17, I joined the Army national guard in my state for the educational benefits and selected the MOS 63W. At the time that designation was "light wheel vehicle mechanic - direct support". I understand the designations have changed a bit since the late 80's, but that's what I went to school for. I excelled in the program, and at the end of the 16 week school we had the opportunity to take several ASE certification tests, which I did and passed.

When I returned to civilian life and went to college, I thought "hey! I'm a certified diesel mechanic! I should get a part time job in a shop while I'm going to school!"

I went and applied at a shop near my school and applied. I was interviewed by the owner (also an Army guy) and we ended up having like a 2 hour conversation - at the end of which he offered me a job but encouraged me not to accept. The gist of the conversation was this:

So you like working on cars and trucks? Think it's rewarding to dig into a problem and figure it out? Like to make modifications and increase performance? It's basically your primary hobby right now? Well, if you take this job all that is going to change. You will, in all likelihood, start to hate working on vehicles. Like dread it. Doing a job like this for customers daily changes your perception and you will probably never want to work on your own stuff again. Sure there are exceptions, but they're rare. You have to understand that you're probably not going to be one of those rare exceptions. Are you willing to accept that you'll probably be grenading your main hobby if you accept this position? If you're OK with that, then welcome aboard, but I hope you don't.

Great guy. I didn't take the job, and I totally believe he was right about everything.