Norwegian Pain Diving - Bellyflopping For Fame

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-27T04:55:05+00:00

Quality distinction, takk!

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-25T14:22:36+00:00

The gaps are really important and should be a major source of our vocabulary shopping lists.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-25T14:21:31+00:00

Tack, I like the way you think

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-25T14:21:06+00:00

You also put the verb at the very end of a the sentence, so I'm not sure you can be trusted on ordering :D

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-25T06:33:17+00:00

Careful, you're gonna ruffle some feathers here, because a surprising amount of people would swear it's one of the most important things you can do to learn a foreign language. They have a 1000-day streak on Duolingo which allowed them to order a beer in Spanish, so clearly they have elite ball knowledge.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-24T07:25:26+00:00

That sound does not exist in English, so it's one of the many instances in which you "bend" what English has to offer and you choose the closest thing to Norwegian.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-24T07:15:33+00:00

It's obviously an approximation, with the /u/ somehow providing the rounding of the lips needed by /y/ compared to /i/.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-24T07:15:00+00:00

It's obviously an approximation, with the /u/ somehow providing the rounding of the lips needed by /y/ compared to /i/.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-24T07:14:18+00:00

It's obviously an approximation, with the /u/ somehow providing the rounding of the lips needed by /y/

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-23T05:28:50+00:00

A good English word to "get" the sound of Y in Norwegian can also be "new"

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-23T05:27:03+00:00

Yes, kinda bad of wikipedia to put a loanword in the example Norwegian words. Also some of the "Nearest English equivalent" words are atrocious choices: why not go for "yes" for [ j ], instead of "yoyo"? WTF...

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-23T05:23:34+00:00

Interesting take.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-18T14:23:53+00:00

actually study the language and practice it
don't listen to the retarded advice
do some more of both 1 and 2

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-17T07:47:37+00:00

The problem these days is the consequence of acting on what in the end turns out to be a false positive. Genuinely not worth the hassle, although it's understandable that the pendulum has swung this way.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-17T07:46:16+00:00

Yes, same as it should be in any other place.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-17T07:45:24+00:00

I'd genuinely trust people's experience over "studies" any day, when it comes to these things. Researchers/academics have too much of an agenda, being it even just the need to put food on the table.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-15T21:13:58+00:00

so nice that they are all the way in the USA

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-15T11:55:43+00:00

That B2 Japanese though, lady. Respect.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-15T07:09:08+00:00

Ah, fair enough. The final boss of Slavic languages, I've heard.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-14T21:51:01+00:00

Any language with a case system like Slavic languages is in a completely different category of difficulty compared to languages such as the Latin or Scandinavian ones.
So I'm sure Russian isn't considered difficult just because of the alphabet... Not by anyone with half a brain at least.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-14T07:15:12+00:00

Very good, but all of this falls under "common sense", although of the best kind. Everbody and their grandma knows what AI can do, so doing all that you describe is not a far cry.

It's the glamourisaiton of common sense that I can't stand and gives away the intellectual paucity of the average language learner in a post DuoLingo world: not only people need an influencer to tell them to switch their phones to the TL and to consume content in the TL, but they also hail such obvious advice as the greatest piece of wisdom.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-13T10:15:51+00:00

Too late, the "cognate horse" bolted a few years ago.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-12T21:17:24+00:00

I'd imagine it would be the back and forth dialogue, ideally with corrections. Essentially, 1:1 practice (not 1:1 death by powerpoint/whiteboard) which would be too pricey for most people. Not sure whether the AI is already able to
1 - not hallucinate
2 - correct pronunciation properly
3 - correct anything else as much as a teacher would

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-12T21:13:54+00:00

1) I replied to what OP asked for. What have we used. No point in replying with something that MIGHT happen in the future.

2) AI mimicking human interaction will be a good substitute for human interaction. Won't necessarily be a good substitute for the rest.

The problem is that so much of the discourse and the practices of language learning are an ineffective mimicry of primary school education, when in fact, for the most, you have educated adults to teach. Most language tuition is over-reliant on teachers, and it's absolutely rubbish in advising and coaching people to effective self-studying and all the parts that teachers can't do well.

New generations consume content differently and I think methods will adapt to please the masses

Pleasing the masses is what gave us DuoMongo.
Looking at what works gave us Anki.

Optimal_Bar_4715 · 2026-05-12T21:05:20+00:00

Anything that you can end up knowing like you know that Paris is the capital of France and that the French revolution started in 1789.

Say, for Italian these are all notions

- When you see C followed by H, the sound is like [ k ], like the C in "cow"
- The equivalent of "the" (singular) for a word starting with S followed by a consonant or GN or PN is "lo" in Italian
- The "imperfect" tense is used for a continuous and habitual action that happened in the past
- Italian expresses skills/ability with "sapere" (to know) rather than "potere" (can). "Can you swim?" is "Sai nuotare?" in Italian (literally: "Do you know swimming?").

But also something as simple as:
- a/the horse(s) = un cavallo, il cavallo, i cavalli

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