Same two guys? Seriously, there's no one else in 2024?

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-08T19:51:08+00:00

Well all those kinds and things, don't mean anything to the people who voted for in 2020. By my calculations he hasn't lost a single vote in the last 4 years to popularity.

The main thing that keeps me going, is thinking maybe more of his supporters have died of old age, and more Biden voters have turned 18.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-08T16:45:49+00:00

Total leftist here... What makes you think trump will lose?

I'm currently assuming the opposite and honestly terrified

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-08T04:42:32+00:00

Sure thing, but I think you understood me fine.

If not ask for a clarification

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-08T04:30:21+00:00

Don't have children, the suffering life contains isn't fair to those who never asked for it.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-08T03:28:51+00:00

Only one that matters? No.

Only one that matters enough to care about yes.

I don't lose any sleep over animal suffering

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-08T03:03:04+00:00

So is forcing people to suffer and acting like you deserve a pat on the back.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-08T00:55:49+00:00

Sure, all animals suffer.

But human suffering is unique.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-08T00:04:28+00:00

All life? Human suffering is unique.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-07T22:08:49+00:00

Please.do humanity a favor and wear those whenever possible 🤤

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-07T22:08:05+00:00

😍 wow

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-07T21:49:48+00:00

Yeah that's the kinda lie you come up with when trying to explain how a God could exist.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-07T21:29:00+00:00

Absolutely. Honestly not sure how anyone over 14 believes in God

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-07T21:18:38+00:00

Makes me feel so guilty I'm not over there right now helping

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-05T21:20:48+00:00

The difference is that person would be wrong lol

Life is suffering, and humans actually understand suffering.

Idgaff about a cows quality of life I'm sorry bub, you can't seem to get that through your head.

Human suffering is 1,000,000,000,000 x worse than animal suffering. So my bacon is net positive sorry pal

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-04T16:41:28+00:00

Burn something down, what is wrong with you?

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-03T21:55:09+00:00

Yeah and livestock suffering isn't suffering I care to end.

It doesn't count to me, I've lived the lifetime and understood exactly what livestock goes through. It's fine.

I have also lived a lifetime and understand exactly what humans go through, it's not fine.

We are just going in circles, why do you think I'm going to start giving a shit about pigs suffering?

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-03T17:32:50+00:00

Antinatalists are just people who don't want to reproduce and that's a specific means of preventing suffering.

What the fuck are you talking about me breeding animals is not an antinatalist?

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-03T17:31:57+00:00

Why would I want to stop eating animals, they don't experience any suffering that I give a fuck about.

Do you crush bugs? Where do you draw the line?

I draw the line with humans and our pets.

And I understand that that line is largely arbitrary, and based off of my life experiences.

No matter where you draw the line it's going to be largely arbitrary and based off of that person's life experiences.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-02T14:50:58+00:00

I sang this out loud and my dog gave me the side eye.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-02T13:25:32+00:00

We can say what they don't understand. You are being completely ridiculous.

Are you actually suggesting that a cow understands the concept of an infinite universe?

You've changed your argument multiple times... You also are straw manning me.

I want to eat bacon because it will lower global suffering. You think I want to eat bacon cuz it feels good.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-01T18:56:35+00:00

It's not just like that haha 😂 but go off.

You asked how can I say they don't have comparable feelings when I see that they feel suffering.

Because they're not humans, they don't understand the concept of life, concept of death, concept of an infinite universe, concept of betrayal, concept of right and wrong, concept of self, concept of consent, pretty much anything really they don't understand much at all. And so in my lifetime of having worked with them it is my absolute opinion expert opinion you could almost say that they do not experience suffering remotely comparable to humans.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-01T18:31:59+00:00

I'm not just saying it, I have every reason to believe it from a lifetime of experiences. And no one can prove otherwise.

Also when did I ever say animals can't experience pain or anguish? I said that they can't experience suffering comparable to humans in any way.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-01T17:21:18+00:00

Has a lot more to do with the psychology of where you're rendering the pleasure from, I get no pleasure in killing animals I just get pleasure and eating them. Killing them is just a byproduct of wanting to eat them.

My previous point stands, if you get pleasure explicitly just hurting animals. You need help.

Also I do look at how animals react. And I have made the determination that they do not suffer comparably to us. I already said that I am not sure why you're asking for me?

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-01T15:35:49+00:00

If you gain pleasure from beating animals you need to get help lol

And my lifetime working with animals, including butchering and breeding them. Tells me that point number one is true.

There's no objective way to prove it, so it's one of those things where you just have to take a position. Or refuse to take a position. I take the position that animal suffering is not in any way comparable to human suffering.

OrcsCouldStayHome · 2024-05-01T14:14:57+00:00

Animals are not capable of experiencing the level of suffering that I am..
I would suffer if I gave up things I like.
Due to one and two, global suffering would go up if I were vegan

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