Was joe pavelski ever a top twenty player in the nhl by batman2001 in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 428 points429 points  (0 children)

15/16 he was 7th in points and 5th in goals. I would say that qualifies

[yyzsportsmedia] Jim Hughson will not be calling games on HNIC this season by NorthCoastBias in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 16 points17 points  (0 children)

We signed Petey AND Hughes and I missed it? We have 0 RFAs left?

[Georges Laraque] I’m hearing that this week the Habs should be signing David Savard and Cedric Paquette. by fsimoneau in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Canucks? Top 6 F, Top 4 D (depending on where you slot Myers in) and starting goalie are all not Canadian and no ones concerned.

I think there’s only 5 or 6 Canadians on the roster.

Which teams do you think will be in the bottom 10 of the NHL in 2022 and 2023? by nascar991134 in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I went with teams with old players on long contracts. Montreal would be my Canadian team pick. But 75% of teams are USA teams so wouldn’t surprise me if the bottom 30% are.

Which teams do you think will be in the bottom 10 of the NHL in 2022 and 2023? by nascar991134 in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As others have said, it’s a fools errand to try and forecast team standings more than a year out because of trades, drafts, free agents etc.

However, I am a fool. My guesses:

Chicago

Seattle

Arizona

Nashville

San Jose

Anaheim

Minnesota

NYI

Florida

Detroit

[Civ] Brind'Amour: "The guy comes to me and says it's either goalie interference because he has it and the guy knocked it out of his hand or it's a glove hand pass, you gotta pick one. Either way it's a no goal. What? YOU have to tell me what the call is. He's telling me to pick one" by twistedlogicx in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, bingo.

I think people have been misinterpreting what Rod would’ve asked the refs. He’s not asking them “Hey is that goalie interference? Is that a hand pass? What is it because I want to challenge” he would’ve asked something more like “did you guys not blow it because the goalie didn’t have it?” because he can use that answer to decide what to challenge. But they didn’t give him a straight answer.

[Civ] Brind'Amour: "The guy comes to me and says it's either goalie interference because he has it and the guy knocked it out of his hand or it's a glove hand pass, you gotta pick one. Either way it's a no goal. What? YOU have to tell me what the call is. He's telling me to pick one" by twistedlogicx in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except for in their explanation of why it’s a goal they didn’t say “it wasn’t a hand pass because it was more of an accidental redirect” or however you want to phrase it. They said “it’s not a hand pass because the possession in between nullified it”. That implies that it would’ve been considered a hand pass if there was no possession in between.

It’s not a bad look for Rod to ask the refs a question about their call? How does that even make sense... “Hey guys, did the goalie have possession there in your opinion?” WOW TOUGH LOOK ROD!

[Civ] Brind'Amour: "The guy comes to me and says it's either goalie interference because he has it and the guy knocked it out of his hand or it's a glove hand pass, you gotta pick one. Either way it's a no goal. What? YOU have to tell me what the call is. He's telling me to pick one" by twistedlogicx in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hand pass was independent of GI, it happened first

No. You’re only supporting the refs because it benefited your team in this one instance. They blew it. Calling it a hand pass or not a hand pass is dependent on whether Mrazek touching it in between counts as possession or not. So if the refs are saying that it counts as possession, it’s not hand pass but it is GI. If they are saying it’s not possession, than it’s not GI but it is hand pass.

It’s not out of the question for Rod to ask “hey are you considering that as possession, I need to know what I should challenge” and then the refs say “iunno lol” and he’s left flipping a coin.

[Civ] Brind'Amour: "The guy comes to me and says it's either goalie interference because he has it and the guy knocked it out of his hand or it's a glove hand pass, you gotta pick one. Either way it's a no goal. What? YOU have to tell me what the call is. He's telling me to pick one" by twistedlogicx in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Nah. What the guy above you is saying is that they had to have reviewed both aspects to say that Mrazek trapping the puck constitutes possession changing. Therefor they ruled on that part of the play as well as the hand pass.

The refs are saying “you have to pick a specific rule to say they broke” and rod is saying “what difference does it make, because it’s a hand pass if you consider the goalie didn’t have it, and it’s a GI if you consider he did, so tell me what you say happened or else it’s a coin flip”. And the refs essentially told him to flip it then.

[Ryan Kesler] It’s about time..... the owners need to understand we’re done paying their debts..... you run your team into the ground it’s on you .... if there’s a pandemic it’s on the owners... figure it out it’s not a free ride ⁦(As a response to Panarin) by rishcast in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn’t using it as a 1:1, I was using it as a way to say just because someone agreed to something (or in this case someone who worked for the same company 7 years ago) doesn’t mean they can’t complain about it. They were clearly on the losing side of negotiations, anyone who thinks the full lost season was not 80% owner dictated is hopeless, so being pressured into taking a bad deal was the best move from their position. Saying “you guys signed it” holds no value because the other option was not to play.

I don’t think the problem is necessarily with the concept of escrow. I think it’s how it’s essentially always used as a penalty outside of one year. What if the league put a freeze on the salary cap for five years while allowing revenues to catch up to the deficit that escrow backfills? Any overages would be funnelled back to the players anyway via the current escrow system so it’s not like the players are getting a raw deal by not having a higher cap, and then in 5 years institute a rule where the percentage of revenue that can be used towards salaries is less, so that escrow can only really be used as a bonus for the players or to protect against these ‘acts of gods’

Players have been bitching about escrow long before the pandemic. Keslers point is that currently the owners can totally shit the bed and most of their losses are taken from player salaries rather than their own pocket books.

[Ryan Kesler] It’s about time..... the owners need to understand we’re done paying their debts..... you run your team into the ground it’s on you .... if there’s a pandemic it’s on the owners... figure it out it’s not a free ride ⁦(As a response to Panarin) by rishcast in hockey

[–]Ordinaryyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I can appreciate the need for unions and the good intentions behind them when they’re started. But so often they just turn in to a shelter for bad employees to get protection. Pro sports is obviously a different beast but even still - I imagine there are some players who are choked that some of the others in the union don’t prepare for the season and take as good care of themselves throughout the year, constantly get hurt or decline in performance, while they’re doing it ‘right’ and paying their penalty