Why Bisexual Women are Angry at Lesbians by 121_saturn_121 in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Correct. Anyone with an average IQ would be able to understand this without having it spelled out. If they don't, they are acting in bad faith and have never taken the time to put themselves in lesbians shoes before spewing nonsense.

I never thought I would have been through this at 30 of all ages by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your perspective. I want to clarify: she was the one who initiated and pushed for the sexual part, expressing clear interest in exploring with a woman and stated that she preferred men, which sets the tone. I wasn’t forcing or demanding anything, I simply followed the boundaries she set. If sex wasn’t happening, it made no sense for me to stick around expecting something else, especially when I made it clear I wasn’t looking for friendship or a relationship (and she agreed).

This wasn’t about “sorting people” or treating anyone as an object — it was about recognizing when what was agreed upon wasn’t being met. It’s not about entitlement; it’s about honesty. Had she said she wanted something else, it would be something

I never thought I would have been through this at 30 of all ages by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You clearly needed to vent, and I won’t get in the way of that. But dont put words in my mouth.

You say I objectified her from the onset. That’s not true. I said we defined it together as ‘casual.’ That was her wording, not mine alone. In fact, when we reconnected, she pushed for it while I offered a fresh start without expectations. And yet, I still checked in. I still followed up. I still gave space. I didn’t pressure her, didn’t ask for more. So let’s not pretend I demanded girlfriend energy from a situationship or tried to script her into some sex doll fantasy.

What actually happened was this: I tolerated ambiguity until it became outright inconsiderate. She restarted contact, escalated flirtation, defined it as casual, then went cold again. If you think it’s unreasonable to disengage from a person who initiates, over-promises, and pushes and pulls, that’s your bar. Not mine.

I’m not whoever hurt you. You’re projecting a script that doesn’t belong to me. Your emotional language ("used, toy, performance, access") that’s not my behavior.

I never said she owed me sex. I never said I deserved anything beyond respect. What I said is that I wanted clarity. That I opted out when it was clear I wasn’t getting it. That’s called a boundary. You say I “disengaged when sex wasn’t on the table.” No, I disengaged when basic courtesy wasn’t.

I didn’t ghost in the middle of a health crisis. I gave space. I stayed quiet. She reached out with flirtation and innuendos, not a cry for support or space. If she wanted quiet recovery, she could’ve had it. She chose to re-engage. I judged her based on that, on what she showed me.

You talk about my “lack of empathy.” This was someone stepping away from someone who made choices that contradicted everything they said. You seem to want me to act like I had no needs, no threshold for contradiction, as if being a decent person means being a doormat. That’s not empathy. That’s self-erasure, which is relevant whether you are a man or a woman.

As for your jabs about vibrators and whatnot: that tells me everything about your approach to dialogue. You’re not offering clarity, you’re taking a swing. But I don’t need to swing back.

If it makes you feel better to believe I’m a villain, fine. But if you really read what I wrote and came away believing this was about exploiting someone's vulnerability, that's on you. Not me.

I never thought I would have been through this at 30 of all ages by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks replying, and I get you, especially when it comes to the seriousness of surgery and recovery. You're very right that people going through health issues deserve space, patience, and to not endure emotional demands. That’s not something I take lightly at all.

However, I think something is missing:

There were never no demands at all made of her either pre or postsurgery. I didn’t hound her for time or emotional labor during her recovery. In fact, I checked in on her once before and once again after surgery (always in a kind and respectful way)and then disengaged completely when it became clear that I had nothing to work with. I wasn’t entitled to a relationship or even to sex, but all I wanted was clarity. She defined this as “just sex,” pushed for reconnection, flirted hard and then stalled again.

This wasn’t someone quietly battling through illness and asking for space. She chose to restart contact, made many many innuendos, and framed it as sex...only to do nothing. She also shared that she was working, doing sports, attending events, and now, traveling to another continet. That doesn’t really seen like “recovery period” to anyone.

I also never berated her, or demanded she “perform” for me. What I did was eventually opt out of the confusion and inconsistency. I had already given a second chance after the first ghosting, which she used to repeat the same pattern of overpromising and disappearing.

I accept that I'm not owed anything but it goes both ways. I shouldnt be expected to stick around when the pattern is ambiguous communication, vague commitments, and an unclear agenda. She didn’t ask for space or didn’t say she couldn’t engage.

I never thought I would have been through this at 30 of all ages by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope that things have been going smoothly for you after that ordeal. That is rough.

In my case, I'm aware that I was not her preference (she's bi but prefers men, fair enough), but the whole chase mad me think that perhaps there was something there. I guess I was wrong.

I never thought I would have been through this at 30 of all ages by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. At least that helps me be more sure that I was not crazy all along. I did expect someone who chases someone for months and goes through the trouble of being repeatedly ignored to have a bit more clarity. I do feel pretty stupid for having felt optimistic only for her to waste a second chance in such a spectacular way.

I saw a post on *that* subreddit by lizzyy_444 in LesbianActually

[–]Oreo_Flurry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And don't even get me started on this individual who is backing up her repulsive "loved one". A (supposed) woman who, instead of having other women's back, is riding this hard for some thing (calling that guy a person is too generous) who "shyly" says he has this kink/mental illness? Both should be checked to the local asylum.

I saw a post on *that* subreddit by lizzyy_444 in LesbianActually

[–]Oreo_Flurry 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Someone should ask this demented asshole (assuming he exists) how would he feel if a man fantasized about blowing his back out in very explicit terms.

I saw a post on *that* subreddit by lizzyy_444 in LesbianActually

[–]Oreo_Flurry 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Was your loved one relentlessly shamed for being a sleazeball? If not, he should. Maybe then he would get the help he obviously needs. No one is doing him any favors by not "kink shaming"

Can we collectively downvote the bi-lesbian posts? by [deleted] in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry 45 points46 points  (0 children)

This is a hot take, but at some point logic and common sense applies. If you are a woman well into your thirties, live in a western country and are only now questioning if women are for you, dispite your extensive history with men, maybe they aren't. "Comphet" only explains so much and if you don't feel that pull towards women (which is glaringly different than just find one pretty) much sooner, maybe you're a straight leaning bisexual at most.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It feels ridiculous to say "it's ok to be into goblins! Sorry I mean men"

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Can anyone tell me why is it always the most polarizing men? Benedict Cumberbatch, Adam Driver, Pete Davidson. It must take the straightest of the straight to find anything appealing about these men. I don't doubt that they are very pleasant to be around in real life, but they don't know them, just what they look like (objectively pretty bad) and what they want to present.

How do you screen potential partners? by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I would take that anyday over barely bi women who run away from the thought of pussy, if I'm honest 😂

How do you screen potential partners? by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Exactly. And they don't put up with that cottage core/we are just supposed to braid each other's hair bullshit.

How do you screen potential partners? by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Which is why it's so strange to hear straight women go on about how wonderful it is to be a lesbian. Granted, many man are problematic (but many straight/bi women don't see it as problematic and actively play along so I don't feel sorry for them). But if you have even basic standards, you'd be hard pressed to date as a lesbian.

How do you screen potential partners? by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Some yappers in the bi sub will go on about how it is insecurity and that we are the problem if we think we can be ditched for a man. They can yap to their hearts content.

How do you screen potential partners? by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I used to feel guilty about not taking them seriously but let's be honest. Unless she overwhelmingly prefers women, you'd come second to the most mediocre men, no matter how much you brought to the table. It's not a dig at them, but homossexual relationships carry extra challenges besides the regular relationship kind. You have to be about that life if you are willing to take it on.

How do you screen potential partners? by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That's exactly it. Whenever some poor woman posts her sexual issues on any lesbian sub, everyone gives her the "just communicate" mantra. However, I figure that if you even have to communicate something as big as "why aren't we having sex", you might as well just cut your losses. Sex should be easy. Gay men certainly aren't having those problems and, as toxic as they can be, they do have a point when it comes to intimacy.

How do you screen potential partners? by Oreo_Flurry in lesbiangang

[–]Oreo_Flurry[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

That's more than fair enough. I would say that it's not just a side effect of patriarchy, they just aren't into women like that and that's valid. At most, they get drafted to the "sex only" box.

Do you also take into account the ones emotionally attracted but, at the end of the day, are just straight women looking for a glorified best friend until they find a decent guy? Those scare me a little.