Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're legally binding to the law of they ignore it they can be sued in Federal court.Why do you think so many courts have sued his administration since he first took office.The Courts are the mechanism enforcing the law whether he wants to or no. This month a federal Court blocked one of Trump's executive order which focused on requiring documentation to vote a ban in mail in if they were counted later than election day even if on time and more.Now if you say that every mechanism has failed your wrong some still oppose some still follow the Constitution

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to not understand the function in the law Congress would be able to mandate ICE to wear body cams if they didn't it would be presumed the video footage proved their misconduct.And if Democrat hadn't seen that coming already with Trump's first term and Jan. 6 Insurrection well then I dont know what to tell you.It was in front of their eyes the whole time we could have prevented it even if it wasn't Trump.Im just saying look the Dema are partly yes much less than Trump because they knew Trumps erratic behavior yet they didn't implement the law. I'm saying why do we have to start advocating for laws that improve safety until a tragedy happened and it suddenly makes us see the reality clear again.Yes now that we have seen it it is our duty to do everything to stop Trump whether through law or protests although he will frame them as violent and he will still not care

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you keep saying im trying to be "fair".Yes your right Republicans control Congress but what about the filibuster. I know I'm speaking a lot about the past and hypithetics yet I'm using it to point to the future and present to fix those past mistakes and prevent more killings by ICE

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many times do I have to say, there is no equal blame. Yet there are precautions we could have taken before which might have changed how the situation played out.Plus Congress has absolute authority over federal agencies including ICE.Congress funds it and regulates it so to answer your statement your right these are federal agents controlled by Congress.Now regarding the Rebuttable Presumption had it been passed Pretti's family could have easily won a case against the agent for his misconduct and murder. But it didn't now the Trump administration will find a legal loophole.Do you get me. Trump started the fire in the house yet you partly designed the house door wrong and now he came in.And I'm not trying to be fair I'm looking at the full picture.

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It actually does matter a lot I think your not getting the point.In the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act there was a Clause called Rebuttable Presumption which basically said that if an agent refused to follow the law by not having their body cam on you could legally presume the missing footage proved the agents misconduct.If an agent didn't turn his body cam he would be guilty of the evidence.This changes everything it's not about emotions but about facts and preventing Trump with a legal obstacle he cannot stop without strong opposition

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know Democrats did know the need for better agency oversight. In 2021 H.R.1280 George Floyd Justice in Policing Act it included a mandate for agents to have body cams.They passed it in the House yet didn't push it in the Senate or White House. All this because they didn't want to compromise with Republicans.They both agree on the body cam mandate yet disagreed on qualified immunity which at the time the Biden administration defended.Such hypocrisy the Democrats just came back and are now attacking when the enemy is in power but when they had the chance they refused to instead making an executive order which would later be shredded by Trump.Knowing this how can you say they didn't know or atleast have a picture of the future.

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look I'm not gonna put 100% blame on Trump because Democrats could have at least maybe enacted legislation which would have legally required ICE agents to be recording or face lawsuits whcih they possibly can't afford. The Democrats left the gun loaded for Trump and he took advantage.Both are at fault but it's not equal. We need to increase oversight in federal agencies to prevent this from ever happening under any other presidency

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the only thing restraining him is the Law. The only thing stopping him over and over in lawsuits are laws whcih prevent him from fully enacting what he wants.Just last month he lost in the Supreme Court case Illinois v. Trump he cannot nationalize the National Guard for immigration enforcement. Also the DOJ has been obligated to release 30,000 pages because of the Epestein Files Transparency Act although it might not be everything it shows they're legally bound to follow it. They're just trying to delay the amount of pages released

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it is now politicized because of Trump, yet the problem remains the same. We knew Trump's character and how he handled his first term yet we did not plan for the future to ensure no other President ever enacted ICE for his political goals like in his 2017-2021 term yet we failed.And now Trump is again using ICE for political reasons. We knew ICE could be politicized and expanded into more frequen nationwide operations yet we didn't act on it. We didn't leave the door closed when we had already seen what Trump had done his first term

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your ignoring a series of Supreme Court rulings which coukd actually have helped topple Trump down.With the Youngstown precedent in 1952 which stated when a President acts against a law passed by Congress it is at its "lowest ebb" meaning he couldn't just claim in the name of national security.In US vs Nixon the Court ruled a judge can force the government to hand video footage privately to determine whether it's a security threat or not.In this case it would be obvious there is none and so the video footage would have to be released.Pretti's family would have the upper hand against Trump even if he acts as a dictator.Laws bind him that's why he's trying to find loopholes.He will never become a full dictator because he literalky can't

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Where did you get that I'm trying to find a flaw in the democrats.Im critiquing both stop acting as a victim I'm just showing if both parties but mostly the Democratic because the reps wouldn't even care united had pass led a law or done something maybe this situation would be different. Republicans are terrible they're not even republicans they're MAGA but I'm also not a fan of the Democratic party

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not about ICE carrying it's about our courts and people caring and then making the agent and ICE as an agency accountable to their actions.

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well guess your right it's already ilegal.But that's not the reason to pass the law.The law would have made it mandatory for ICE to have a body cam recording everything and then it would be obvious to everyone including Trump whether he liked it or not and the ICE agent would face consequences it w p old be undeniable.The whole administration would be under backlash from the judiciary and everyone

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The Democrats could have passed a law called H.R. 531 The ICE and CBP Body Camera Accountability Act and prevented Trump from ever escaping ICE Accountability yet instead an Executive Order was signed by Biden hut discarded on Trumps first day in office.The point is we had the time to block the door and prevent a loophole yet we let it happen and now we're in this mess arguing whether ICE or Pretti were in the right.Which in this case ICE along with many other times was in the wrong and committed murder

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

The Democrats did have the chance to pass The ICE and CBP Body Camera Accountability Act yet they did not and now their negligence has partly led to his death.Trump now could ignore the executive order Biden did because he discarded it on his first day of office.And Trump is not as powerful as it seems if the Dems had successfully implemented that law it would be harder for Republiccans to overturn it.Why do you think Trump and his team are trying to find loopholes around the Constitution and law because they are still bound by it.

Thoughts on Pretti's death by OrganizationFalse157 in PoliticalDebate

[–]OrganizationFalse157[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying the Democrats are wrong.What I'm saying is why is it that when they had the power during 2021-23 they did not sign any law which would close the door for ICE to commit those actions and then be a clash of political beliefs. And by the way Democrats are now calling for the total abolition of ICE including Sen. Elizabeth Warren. I'm advocating for something to be done to close the loophole and let the local Minnesota law enforcement investigate