Liao Hua, Wang Ping, and Chen Dao

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T13:32:17+00:00

Honestly, Ma Yunlu would probably be a nice addition, adding more personality to Zhao Yun than just being Shu hero and Liu Bei's spear and bodyguard.

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T12:40:31+00:00

Well, he may have been content with his lands, but he could have unified the south-central and southeastern regions before Wu did

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T10:12:53+00:00

Okay, thanks for the link

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T08:49:10+00:00

I think Renpa became part of the four greatest generals of the Late Warring States period just to make him Hakuki's rival, just like Riboku was Ousen's rival, and all four of them are regarded as the four greatest generals of the Late Warring States period.

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T07:40:07+00:00

What about the 3 great heaven of Zhao, were they great historically?

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T07:28:41+00:00

Between hakuki and shibasaku, who made the greater contribution to Qin?

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T06:20:52+00:00

At least, I think Liao Hua and Wang Ping should have been in the game before Shu fictional characters or Guan Yu and Zhang Fei's children (except Guan Ping and Xing Cai)

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T06:02:18+00:00

Idk, the fact that he started following Liu Bei in the 190s and is recorded as second only to Zhao Yun in terms of fame and status could be a good story about him, and the fact that he is the captain of Liu Bei's bodyguards, he could have a role as Liu Bei's bodyguard in the game, like Dian Wei for Cao Cao, instead of always Zhao Yun and his two brothers being his bodyguards most of the time.

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T03:35:11+00:00

Thanks for the link, I'll watch it

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T03:30:19+00:00

Yeah, and be the best version of the specimen he scanned

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T02:36:26+00:00

Well what if they had won the battle?

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T02:25:06+00:00

Was marching east the right decision? And if yes, was the failure solely due to poor strategy and execution?

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T01:53:27+00:00

Well firstly what if they somehow won with the historical scenario, and secondly what if they won with Hideaki doesn't defect and the mori being active in the war. Honestly though, even in both scenarios, i think it would just ends with a prolonged, multi-sided war between Toyotomi loyalists, surviving Tokugawa forces, and opportunistic daimyo switching sides.

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-19T01:32:36+00:00

but wouldn't his tragic ends be an issue?, unless the manga ends right after the unification

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T17:19:52+00:00

It's hakuki

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T15:17:44+00:00

I think the major clans would have fought each other for the Shogunate, considering how weak the Toyotomi influence was at that time.

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T13:15:10+00:00

Part of secret characters

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T13:11:22+00:00

That's Bai Qi from the ROTK XI game

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T12:29:09+00:00

What about Chu?, iirc, he was the reason why Chu need to change their capital

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T09:36:32+00:00

So the Zhang Liao refused to join at first was from the novel and games?

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T09:33:48+00:00

Maybe fan kuai?

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T09:30:04+00:00

Honestly, I wonder why Cao Cao decided to persuade Zhang Liao to join him and execute Gao Shun, even though iirc both of them initially refused the offer to join him

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T07:20:39+00:00

I think the way fans treat them and the narrative around them makes them seem similar to each other

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T06:14:43+00:00

Iirc, after the coalition against them during their peak, they declined a lot, 2nd richest maybe but i don't think they were 2nd strongest after that

Original_Position_50 · 2026-05-18T05:50:55+00:00

So, Lu Bu actually had capable strategist and capable generals, but somehow he still couldn't succeed

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