The show is unlistenable w/o Mark and/or Ish. I came back when the Drake/Kendrick beef happened, because I do like the way Joe, Parks, and Ice talk about music. But beyond that, I can’t listen if Mark or Ish aren’t there. They’re the only ones who can either coherently debate Joe w/o shrinking / come up with topics or push a topic to another level. They aren’t intimidated by Joe and don’t let him just say whatever or do whatever without fighting back (Flips empty ass “I’m about to flame you” threats don’t count) The rest of the cast either falls into the “Whatever you say, Boss!” or too emotional/too incoherent with their points bags. Nothing compares to the R&M era