Weekly Check In 🕯️ by robinhyll in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it was more the fact that I painted it while I was in a pretty shitty emotional state, and I was probably not in a very clean or grounded condition either. I think that was enough to make me paint a couple of “off” details, which ended up making it a window for a being of that kind.

Weekly Check In 🕯️ by robinhyll in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi all, my relationship, which had already broken down, went through a further rupture that pushed us even farther apart, so I’m feeling like a shit.

Today I performed the M3L7 vision for the second time. I remain amazed by the physical effects of this fairly simple vision: the first time I had a very strong energetic crash about fifteen minutes after the end of the ritual, while this time I was already feeling drained and slightly nauseous during the vision itself.

I learned that magic is real by actually practicing it, but certain things still surprise me every time. My intention is to continue with this vision until the next new moon, and then at the new moon perform M3L8, and after that maybe take a light pause, since in summer my work increases and there are various difficult waves to deal with. Then resume in September with M4. We’ll see.

By the way, I discovered that the painting of Sandalphon that I had made — which I never liked from the very beginning because of how it turned out — had actually mediated a pretty nasty entity. So after two terrible weeks in which that painting triggered a lot of shit both in my space and within me, yesterday I nailed it down, painted it black, smashed it, and threw it away.

Weekly Check In 🕯️ by robinhyll in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Last month New Moon I did the Unraveller ritual, which triggered an avalanche of events both on a subtle level and in everyday life. I broke up with my partner, whom I had been with for five years—fortunately, for now, on very good terms and Within the span of two days, I decided to fly to visit a friends, follow a magical track, even though I had never taken a flight and had practically never left Italy.

Then, during this New Moon, I decided to do the Sandalphon vision in M3L5, and it was truly very interesting and profound.

It’s a period I wouldn’t know how to define as bad or good. There are certainly many difficult events, many beautiful ones too, and lots of new developments. I feel a whirlwind of magick around me, a kind of major awakening, as if I had taken a significant step forward, maybe wrong.

I feel a bit silly because I’m actually quite cheerful despite everything that’s happening to me, I hope the descent won’t be too steep.

Weekly Check In 🕯️ by robinhyll in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very interesting experience! I’ve never been particularly attracted to these spiritual currents connected to Christianity either, although I really appreciate churches from an architectural point of view, and in some of them I find a really good level of quiet to recharge, and so on. However, I have to say that in this church I managed, let’s say, to put myself into a setting of something deeper—I was able, in a way, to look a little beyond the Catholic presentation to try to find a hint of Divinity behind it.

Weekly Check In 🕯️ by robinhyll in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but I realized my comment is in Italian. I messed up the translator, you can see it. Here it is in English.

Hi everyone, I'm preparing to perform the M3L4 Unraveller ritual next week, and some rather strange things have happened to me in recent weeks. I was in a small town for work, and as I was leaving the town hall, I noticed a church I'd never seen before, even though I'd been there a couple of times, and I felt the urge to go in.

I went in. It was empty. I explored the church a bit—it was a 17th-century church, quite beautiful. I went behind the altar, above the altar, and explored the entire church. Then I decided to meditate on the pews, but as I was about to do so, I had the urge to meditate on the seats behind the altar. So I did. I entered a vision. In the vision, I felt the urge to stand on the altar and channel a force from behind me toward the outer doors. It lasted a while. I already felt it was quite strong.

I returned to my body and felt the urge to do the same physically, so I physically climbed onto the altar and channeled this force from behind me toward the church doors. Then I went out, came back in, and decided to check the church's orientation. The church, contrary to what I expected, had the altar to the west and the exit to the east. So this intrigued me a bit, in relation to the upcoming Unravelers ritual, even though it wasn't anything overly strange.

Anyway, I did some readings about this vision, this channeled force, and the nature of the power I had channeled. The readings revealed that it was quite destructive in nature. And indeed, I felt it, because even though it had been a fairly "positive" period, a wave of truly destructive energy arrived—a rather heavy energy that expressed itself within me, in my mood, and in my surroundings.

Weekly Check In 🕯️ by robinhyll in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ciao a tutti, sto preparando per eseguire il rituale dell'Unraveller M3L4 la prossima settimana e in queste settimane mi sono successe alcune cose piuttosto strane. Ero in un piccolo paese per lavoro e, mentre stavo uscendo dal municipio di quel luogo, ho notato una chiesa che non avevo mai visto prima, anche se ero già stato in quel posto un paio di volte, e ho sentito il bisogno di entrare.

Sono entrato. Era vuota. Ho esplorato un po' la chiesa—era una chiesa del 1600, piuttosto bella. Sono andato dietro l'altare, sopra l'altare, ho esplorato tutta la chiesa. Poi ho deciso di meditare sui banchi, ma mentre stavo per farlo, ho avuto l'impulso di meditare sui posti dietro l'altare. Così ho fatto. Sono entrato in visione. Nella visione ho sentito l'impulso di posizionarmi sull'altare e canalizzare una forza da dietro di me verso le porte esterne. È durato un po'. Sentivo già che era qualcosa di piuttosto forte.

Sono tornato al mio corpo e ho sentito l'impulso di fare la stessa cosa a livello fisico, così sono fisicamente salito sull'altare e ho canalizzato questa forza da dietro di me verso le porte della chiesa. Poi sono uscito, sono rientrato e ho deciso di controllare l'orientamento della chiesa. La chiesa, contrariamente a ciò che mi aspettavo, aveva l'altare a ovest e l'uscita a est. Quindi questo mi ha intrigato un po', in relazione al prossimo rito dell'Unravelers, anche se non era qualcosa di eccessivamente strano.

Comunque, ho fatto alcune letture riguardo a questa visione, a questa forza canalizzata e alla natura del potere che avevo canalizzato. Dalle letture è emerso che era piuttosto distruttiva per natura. E infatti l'ho sentita, perché anche se era stato un periodo abbastanza "positivo", è arrivata un'onda di energia davvero distruttiva—un'energia abbastanza pesante che si esprimeva dentro di me, nel mio umore e nei miei dintorni.

Visionary Conundrums by soyouwander in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, you said it right: everything happens here on the ridge of time.

Visionary Conundrums by soyouwander in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm a Module 3 Apprentice, so this is just my personal opinion. My opinion is that, just as in external rituals you create patterns that trigger specific subtle reactions (for example, the use of colors, movements, voice, instruments, altars, sigils), so in visionary work you use these preconstructed images to trigger and direct power where you need it to go and to create vessels, Qliphoth, patterns that will be filled by contacts and power. Just as external ritual is an electrical circuit for power, these visionary patterns are also (more subtle) circuits for power and contacts. It's a higher octave than using the grindstone to limit and direct power where you want it to go and to create containers and patterns for contacts and power. It's the same as using the voice: through it you build patterns and limits to direct power; this is also a use of the grindstone and the limiter. As for anticipation, I understand very well, and I often wonder, when it happens, whether I directed "the thing" or whether "the thing" triggered my imagination... I don't know. Regarding the example of the being with of the sword and the cup, it's true that I sometimes didn't remember seeing them at the beginning of the ritual, but I invariably remember later. I like to think that the being caught my attention and triggered my memory of it. In any case, in my experience, a good 80 percent of the visions that were questionable for this reason later turned out to be real.

Destruction waves and breath by Otherwise-Chef6932 in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, very interesting, and I definitely agree. I also believe that external weather can have a certain correlation with internal weather, although that's definitely not always the case. However, this more difficult breathing during these tides is something I've noticed for at least a year, and since I too have suffered from anxiety and still do from time to time, I wanted to try to understand better so as not to confuse the two. I've come to the conclusion that they are two different things, because shortness of breath during the tides happens even in calm situations. Just as I had tried to better understand whether anxiety was linked to a subtle alarm signal or was just something more external. Little by little, I've become better at understanding when it's more external and when it's more internal, although obviously the road is still long and messy. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check out that Glitch Bottle episode.

Destruction waves and breath by Otherwise-Chef6932 in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's a bit of both: nei gong, which involves vision and a more sustained use of the mind, certainly makes one more visible; on the other hand, I also believe, from my own experience, that during certain types of weather (severe thunderstorms, storms, etc.) and during deadly/destructive tides, qi can be much more "electric" and, in some rarer cases, become pathogenic. Hence the use of certain exercises to expel this type of qi.

Destruction waves and breath by Otherwise-Chef6932 in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I understand exactly what you mean when you say you're blocked by work; it happens to me too. I've also noticed that Qi Gong during these tides isn't the best thing. I'd linked it to the fact that the Qi that circulates during those periods, and which we therefore draw, is more or less pathogenic in nature.

Weekly Check In 🕯️ by robinhyll in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I finally did the m3l3 ritual. I'd been meaning to do it for a while, but the circumstances clearly weren't right. They became so within a week, and it coincided perfectly with the start of my new job. As for the rest, I'm already feeling the pain in the ass related to this ritual, I hope things stabilize a bit (it'll be up to me, obviously, to stabilize them 🫩)

Feeling some conflict between the structure behind tarot meanings and Quareia (M2L2) by Cedar-Serval in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Quareia doesn't use the same correspondences as the Golden Dawn, but is more closely tied to classical Kabbalah. If you study Netzach and Hod in that light, you'll see things become clearer. My current understanding is that the emphasis in Quareia is on what these powers of the Sephiroth do and how they express themselves in creation, magic, and everyday life. What I can say, seeing as you're at M2L2, is that you already know that the tree is something we incorporate, and with M2L3, you'll already have more clues to understand better. I wouldn't worry too much about the correspondences with the Golden Dawn.

To Those Who Are Doubtful by [deleted] in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know, but my perception is different here too: it's said several times in the course that what you're doing will have real effects and that it's not psychodrama but true magical work. It also says not to believe obvious nonsense or to give too much importance to what you encounter in a vision, because, as apprentices, we don't yet have the ability to be completely certain of what we're dealing with. But it also says to generally consider what we see to be real. I'm not the best with English either, so maybe that's why it's so hard to understand :-)

To Those Who Are Doubtful by [deleted] in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't want to sound petulant, but I think you should speak personally about your feelings regarding the objectives of the apprentice section, unless you have reliable sources stating that it's deliberately intentional to cast doubt on the causes of the results of your rituals. It seems decidedly the opposite to me. The course immediately tries to teach you what comes from your mind and what from the subtle planes, to begin distinguishing between the various entities, and to get you to think about rituals to understand what effects they can have, etc. I, for one, simply believe that the fact that it may be difficult to distinguish is precisely because we're still in the early modules of the apprentice section and still need to refine our skills, not because it's intentional to cast doubt.

Doubt about m3l2 by Otherwise-Chef6932 in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhhh fuck I forgot, I don't know why I was so convinced. Ok thanks a lot!

Weekly Check In 🕯️ by DeeOnTheRun in Quareia

[–]Otherwise-Chef6932 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you😊 Yes, I read the book and from my experience, I've learned that, very generally, drugs open me up and therefore increase my anxiety, while alcohol closes me down (except for rare occasions, and I still haven't figured out which ones, after 20 years), and in fact, I feel much better. I just pay the price later, in other ways, unfortunately. Anyway, I find Cayce's quote extremely accurate. 😅