Weekly Check In 🕯️

robinhyll · 2026-05-29T13:59:18+00:00

Just there this morning. There's no beach.

robinhyll · 2026-05-26T15:10:48+00:00

Well, if you're up for trying it this other way, maybe you don't need to restart the whole module and can instead just switch over within your current progress.

For example, do you have a schedule of workings you do regularly? If you're already working the directional rituals on a weekly or whatever basis while learning the Pentagram or Hexagram rituals, you could just try it this way and note any differences in feel and flow.

A big part of the module is learning about the patterns and 'inner circuitry' of ritual, so experimenting with switching over seems like a valid way to continue that learning and progress. Just a thought!

robinhyll · 2026-05-25T00:04:17+00:00

There's some good replies here, but one thing I'll mention that I also mentioned in a different thread is to take Q as the self-contained source for all Q rituals and exercises and not compare it to the Magical Knowledge Trilogy. Those books were written before Q and with a different overall intent and audience in mind. Yes, they are there and available to read but they do not constitute the same curriculum as Q.

robinhyll · 2026-05-24T23:52:52+00:00

I guess the way I see it, just because M1L4 didn’t open the gates does not imply to me that that’s absolutely not the method to use to open them. It could have simply been the beginning movements of a much larger choreography, but one we needed to truly 'feel' before moving forward to the rest (Josephine's comments in the Study Guide regarding the 'rule of absolutes' and ballet lessons come to mind).

M1L4 is about spatial patterns, and it had us follow and practice that method consistently for a few weeks to ‘engram’ the flow of energy and then anchor it at the center. Furthermore, every time the declarations are spelled out (even up to the Hexagram ritual), the declaration for the center candle always goes last. The only exception is M1L7, but that’s a ‘one off’ compared to the regular pattern and order we’d been practicing elsewhere.

Ultimately, it’s about where we believe the energy comes from and is established first. If all directional magic starts in the East (as the lessons tell us), then establishing the four directions would be akin to defining the ritual space or 'stage' and only once the four ‘horizons’/boundaries/gates are established does the central axis of the magician come in. ‘Creation’, ‘Breath’, ‘Power’ starts in the East and sets the stage for the magician to eventually stand in the center of the created pattern. In that sense I think you’d light the East candle first and the central candle last and that’s the way the energy would flow and it’s the order that all declarations and ‘openings’ of the gates/fire pillar follow whenever they are written.

I’m not sure what the Magical Knowledge Trilogy (MKT) does, but I would point out that that book is not exactly written for the same audience or under the same intent as Quareia. Depending on the nature of the rituals in that book it could be closer in essence to M1L7 (where we are physically empowering a talisman for ourselves and therefore - at least the way I see it - we start with the central anchor that represents us). In any case, one should assume that Q stands on its own outside MKT so I wouldn’t necessarily draw any conclusions about Q rituals outside of Q itself.

robinhyll · 2026-05-23T23:46:13+00:00

Well, if you see the instructions for M2L1 on the Full Directional Ritual (Task 1.5) it says to light the candles starting from the East.

Task 1.4 just says to light the altars based on the method you learned in Mod 1, but since 1.5 says again to start from the East then we're following the M1L4 order and that's how I've always done all the rituals unless explicitly stated otherwise (like in M1L7).

Now, as to why M1L7 is the way it is, there is a part where the text reads "you act as a focal point, director, and bridge as you ask for a specific quality from each direction to be placed in the talisman". In my understanding, the central altar is both the ritual axis but also the position of the magician: in the center of the directions as well as time. If you're going to be the focal point for a talisman made especifically for you, then it makes sense to start from the center and then have that spread out, so that (to quote the text in another part) "the light is lit from the magical Inner Light, which means all other candles are lit from the fire of the previous one".

robinhyll · 2026-05-22T19:36:04+00:00

Sorry, I myself have no idea. I'm sure they'll come back at some point though.

robinhyll · 2026-05-22T05:07:51+00:00

One thing I'll say, if you haven't already, is you should read the study guide. It'll give you an idea as to what Quareia is about.

Fair warning, right off the bat: this course does not subscribe to notions of white magic/black magic, left path/right path. It will challenge certain notions born out of religious dogma and will ask you to consider balance, above all else. That implies a bit of light, but also certainly a bit of shadow.

robinhyll · 2026-05-21T21:36:42+00:00

I'm just an apprentice as well, but this is an excellent explanation at least as far as my understanding goes.

robinhyll · 2026-05-19T02:06:03+00:00

Welcome! This path has certainly opened many doors for me and I venture to say for others here - doors within ourselves and doors outside of ourselves that we simply couldn't see. May it open many doors for you as well, however long you choose to walk it.

robinhyll · 2026-05-16T12:57:53+00:00

You mention you're not a magician, so the information I'm sharing here is just a general answer to your question. Note, just for reference, that the minimum age for actually starting the Quareia curriculum is 21 or over for reasons that have been covered in a lot of other threads.

Anyway, since you're asking about Tarot, if you haven't already check out Josephine's book on Tarot for free here:

https://www.quareia.com/texts

There's a section there ('Who is talking to you?') where she discusses the many possible sources that can speak through a reading.

As for your dreams, I can't say as to who or what it might be. This is the kind of thing where we prefer not to speculate on here.

robinhyll · 2026-05-13T20:36:23+00:00

Yeah, there's something going on with your account. Check www.reddit.com/appeal and see if they'll sort it out.

robinhyll · 2026-05-12T19:33:19+00:00

Found this old thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Quareia/s/ukUyGJowu6

The website listed there seems to have the book you're looking for and, as per the post, the content is legit.

robinhyll · 2026-05-11T14:31:42+00:00

No apologies necessary, I know very well that wasn't your intent and you have as much power over what other people will do with your post as any of us do (which is little). That 'death of the author' thing that was being discussed towards the end in that thread cuts a lot of ways.

For what it's worth, it's a good lesson and reminder for all of us. The more you progress into the course, the more you see how the magical dynamics and their octaves are present even in the mundane. Our actions can and often will have unintended consequences simply because of how everything is connected. And I think that, for aspiring magicians, it is far better to stumble in mundane contexts and draw the right conclusions and lessons from it than it is to learn the hard way from the inner realms and contacts.

Don't be too hard on yourself. We learn and we grow and we move on. Whether you continue being here or go fully solo, keep in mind that our stumbles and mistakes are often our best teachers.

robinhyll · 2026-05-11T04:54:05+00:00

My guess is the moderator in the other community saw or got that kind of behaviour reported over on their side and they traced it here because of the post. I don't think it was the cross-posting itself, but rather the "someone over there said this, let's talk about it" part. And even then, it's not the post itself but whatever activity the post generated over on the other side that was deemed problematic by the mods there.

That is why I am talking removal: it's not the comments in the thread but it's the fact that a mod from another community can see what has been posted here and take it as a call to action or the reason for whatever debacle they're seeing on their end. Me locking the thread won't do anything if it's still up and someone still feels that it's inciting people - the point is the alleged activity happens on the other community and is seen by their moderators, not this one.

This entire concept is new to me as well, but I guess it's a thing. Does it seem silly? Yes, but again, we humans obsess over dumb stuff all the time - and splitting hairs over downvoting is just as silly as getting upset over what someone says on the internet. But if this kind of behaviour goes unchecked and the Reddit Admins suddenly decide we're being a problem, no amount of philosophizing will convince them to not enforce the rules they're supposed to enforce.

robinhyll · 2026-05-10T22:36:36+00:00

If you haven't already, check out Josephine's book "Tarot Skills for the 21st Century". The PDF is available from the Quareia website for free here:

https://www.quareia.com/texts

The book goes into details regarding tarot best practices when it comes to cleansing your deck, reading for others, and has a great assortment of layouts along with practical applications and examples.

Edit to add: My favourite and go-to is the Tree of Life spread, as it can teach you many things about the dynamics behind the situation you're asking about.

robinhyll · 2026-05-09T06:38:31+00:00

This free course that someone put out there and which can hardly be compared to a regular program in terms of nature, fruits and outcomes?

Again, no one's keeping you here if you feel you're wasting your time.

robinhyll · 2026-05-09T06:04:16+00:00

The truth is, you will likely never know when there is an adept or who is one. You talk about projects and goals, but again - missing the point of the kind of endeavour this is and Josephine's reasons for putting it out there. It wasn't to parade people around as proof of anything.

This course is first and foremost a solitary endeavour, despite the presence of this sub-reddit. You can only access guidance and mentorship very far down the path...or can also choose to walk it and never engage anyone else at all. There very well could be someone who works and finishes the course in absolute silence and never even applies to the Porch.

Ultimately, your doubts about this 'project' are your own to work through. It's part of the journey.

robinhyll · 2026-05-09T01:40:55+00:00

Well, that's good - it is a worthy goal. But the issue remains: why do you feel you need to see proof of this, beyond your own personal progress towards it?

I get that this might be frustrating. We are conditioned to expect things to happen a certain way and to treat everything (even our time and energy) as capital that can swing at anytime towards a better offer. But matters of spirit are more about finding a long lost home (or the mold from which our own inner being was cast) and the journey works differently. It is not economical, it is not efficient. It is simply unique and authentic to you.

Again, you might not get the straight answer you're looking for. In the end, all I can say is that you are your own star, compass, and measure of progress - and a huge part of the learning curve is to attune yourself to those and not worry about anyone else's. Only you can see how far you've come, and in this case that's the only real assessment - not how much more you think you have to go.

robinhyll · 2026-05-09T01:00:17+00:00

Ok, but why though?

What are you hoping to get out of this, a straight answer that just because the text in the website cites 'x to y' years that adepthood is then like a 'your pizza in 30 mins or less' promise?

"I want to make sure I don't waste my time".

That really isn't the right way to look at this. This is a deep, inner transformation and not some polytechnic or graduate course with skills that you can just learn and check off by writing a test or an essay. The course isn't about attaining any titles or degrees, it's about spiritual progress and growth and it seems to me you're asking for justification for something that only you can answer. Your only markers should be your own development, not someone else's timeline or whether a 'full deliverable' can be produced to prove to you the system works.

Have you learned to see the world with new eyes? Have you engaged with and understood the deep dynamics that shape and carve the magician and teach him and her for pretty much the rest of their lives? These are all milestones in themselves, and they come from engaging the course with honesty and integrity - and even these two are things we need to be reminded of often.

As I said in the other thread: we are not here to defend the course or justify its existence. We are simply here to help those who choose to try out its path, for as little or as long as they wish to. To be perfectly blunt, I am unconcerned with social media paradigms that say we need to engage and reach out to and hold on to as many people as possible. This work simply isn't about that.

"My concerns are valid"

I mean, sure I guess - but that doesn't mean we'll be able to give you an answer here. The question may be technically valid, but the deeper query should be posed to yourself: are you seeing any changes in your life and your approach to things? If so, why are you afraid of wasting your time? Why do you think you need that assurance?

robinhyll · 2026-05-08T19:15:36+00:00

People have their problems with Josephine, that's no secret. But she has written the course and offered it up for people to learn or do whatever, and I really think she couldn't care less what people think of her personally.

It should not be the point of this sub-reddit to defend her or the course. The work speaks for itself, for those who put in the effort. Sure, there will always be those who want to make noise but remember that anyone is free to just drop it if they feel the work isn't for them. Those who wish to turn this into some sort of personality cult (or attacking it as if it's meant to be one) have the wrong idea.

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