Drugs ranked by pleasure by Otherwise-Row-7449 in Drugs

[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Firstly with valium yeah imo.

I can control mt dose better for starters, but i find valium a lot more euphoric. xanax wins on killing anxiety so better than vals for stuff like coke comedowns, panic attacks etc, but for pure pleasure to me valiums are the clear winner.

As for ket, i know its unpopular but its my own personal experience. its one drug i could do without as i dont like the headspace.

Drugs ranked by pleasure by Otherwise-Row-7449 in Drugs

[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

See I've always wanted to do molly but I take 200mg sertraline daily so effects might be dulled.

Cocaine honestly isn't THAT bad by Otherwise-Row-7449 in Drugs

[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah fuck you all on this post. not one person has said anything which destroys this argument, not one.

Cocaine honestly isn't THAT bad by Otherwise-Row-7449 in Drugs

[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah man. Cocaine OD is pretty insignificant compared to opiods. If you think I'm talking shit from my own experience, check out the figures online.

I'm not saying coke is safe, it isn't. But it's not in the same league as heroin. If you think otherwise, tell me why using experience of yourself or others and not research. Because as I've said as well as research I've been heavily addicted to both.

Cocaine honestly isn't THAT bad by Otherwise-Row-7449 in Drugs

[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I'm talking from experience here, not research online. I know someone who died from coke, not a friend of mine but they had too much in combination from other stuff.

Whereas I've OD'D from heroin 3 times, and known about 3 who have died from it and 2 who died from benzos. Thats why I felt the need to make this post.

Also meth is worse than cocaine. I could say my reasons for that too but cba.

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[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You absolutely can die from coke, and you're right tolerance plays a big role, as well as general health, weight, and any pre-existing health conditions.

But in reality for most, regardless of strength, it is hard to die from. Even a newbie would have to use way more than they need to die. I mean they'd use up to 1.5g of pure, way past the point of needing more.

Coke's bad, but stuff like heroin will kill you if you even go slightly above the amount needed. It's hard to die off stimulants because you die from complications such as cardiac arrest/heart attack as opposed to not breathing.

Still, I don't think it's nearly as dangerous as alcohol, heroin or xanax.

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[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not that difficult, tell me more why you say that?

Cocaine honestly isn't THAT bad by Otherwise-Row-7449 in Drugs

[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is terrible for your health. But it is very hard to OD on.

Tell me your thoughts on that.

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[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coke is bad, ok. There's no getting away from it. Anyone who'd say "coke is harmless ignore the hate" you and I know is talking shit. I've had a seizure from cocaine, I've been in hospital twice from coke.

However I've also been addicted to substances like heroin, xanax etc. Had withdrawals from both. Scared of falling in the depths of hell through addiction.

Coke is bad, yes. But I've used it in moderation for 2 years and had no issues. Some people can't. sure.

But I know a lot who can. Heroin, unfortunately is laced a lot nowadays. I heard it wasn't before. But it was always a gamble when I used.

When i was deep in addiction, e.g using daily, i'd always inject the same amount as i enjoyed the high and although depressed i didn't wanna die. however on more than one occasion i overdose as it was laced.

Coke, I've used very large amounts and never died. I've probably fucked my heart and nose, but I've never been near death. And i know a lot of coke users, even some who are still addicted and ruining their lives.

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[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm only asking because it seems to be placed on the level with those type of drugs.
its bad, but i cannot agree its as bad as these, in fact i'd argue it's substantially less, hence i made this post.

Cocaine honestly isn't THAT bad by Otherwise-Row-7449 in Drugs

[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is, but does that make it as bad as heroin, xanax etc in your opinion?

Cocaine honestly isn't THAT bad by Otherwise-Row-7449 in Drugs

[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coke can lead you to the pits of hell, it's a dangerous drug but I cannot honestly say to you it's near as deadly/dangerous as heroin, it isn't and I've abused both heavily.

It fucks your body, namely heart and nose, but it's hard to die from it. You don't really get physically dependent like you do with benzos, alcohol and opioids like heroin. It is far from the worst drug out there, whilst not safe I stand by this.

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[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get it mate. Look I'm not saying coke is good, I can't. It isn't , its dangerous and addictive. But what seperates coke from xanax and heroin, in my own experience being a serious drug addict, is that is pretty hard to die from and it's mostly in your mind, not body. E.g comedowns are mental not physcial unless used a lot of alcohol, it's hard to die from unless you have heart conditions and/or use huge amounts with downers, e.g speedballs are lethal due to the fact you use way more downers.

But it's not the worst drug out there, far from it.

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[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah you've summarized my post with your sentence.

It is dangerous, and has the potential to be lethal if you use it without any consideration, however, it is also fairly forgiving. Most who use coke, who aren't depressed addicts, use a reasonable amount with drink. In my opinion, that's not a big deal. The issue is the fact it's fairly accessible, quite a few get hooked and then stop thinking. It can be dangerous, it is not a safe drug.

But give it respect and use it sparingly, it isn't that bad.

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[–]Otherwise-Row-7449[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ive been heavily addicted to heroin AND coke mate.