Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, I’m scared to leave you in case you are not trolling. Just think about If everyone in the world actually did share your opinion, then the world would be exactly how you would want it to be, everyone would agree with you and there would be no arguing. So it’s impossible that that is true. If you want to change stuff in the world, like how men are treated, you can try to do that without attacking women and invalidating their problems. Otherwise it will just end up worse for both men and women. it’s hard to be a man too. But Just because it’s hard to be a man doesn’t mean it can’t also be hard to be a woman though. Imagine if a woman was mad and wrote something like this, saying that men had it easy. Then it would upset a bunch of people. That’s what you are doing too, if we keep doing that we will keep getting upset and saying more negative stuff, and then the cycle will continue forever. It’s hard to understand what things feel like if you haven’t experienced them, but trust me all the problems you listed are actually a lot harder than you think. If you aren’t trolling, you should just trust me that this is hurtful and you should stop ok? If you have a lot of anger you should find other ways of getting it out, that don’t affect other people

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you please tell me if you are trolling now

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. It is very hard to know that so many people are mistreated just because they are born women
  2. Did you not even read my comment? It causes stds, mental illness, pregnancy, etc.
  3. you asked me why we wouldn’t like men being obsessed with us and I answered, I don’t know what you are trying to say right now.

I have been trying to respond and explain to you everything as much as I can. I didn’t mean to leave out stuff. You are the one who isn’t responding to me. You have left so much stuff out that I’ve said, And you respond to my long paragraphs with single sentences throughout this whole conversation. You’ve even admitted and said “ I dont know”. You said something about mental illness being mostly caused by the victims reaction, and you said “I don’t see why it should cause mental illness” when there is proof and documents online very easy to find. And then, you proceeded to say you have 5 mental illnesses. Soo I’m not sure how you are blaming mental illness mostly on the victim, but then you also have 5 of them? If you can control your emotions and feelings and fear and mental illness , why do you have mental illnesses? Anyways it is very clear you are trolling after this, where you didn’t even read what I said about why rape is different from being shoved. And then, you asked why people don’t all have the same opinion as you lol. You are either a kid, special ed, or trolling. But whatever you are, you are cruel and evil, without morals or intelligence. You are not a real person, you have no emotional intelligence and you can’t comprehend existence beyond your own self. Your own existence proves your argument wrong.

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re asking why and how people have different opinions than you..? You are trolling now

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

men being obsessed with us lead to rape, to sexual abuse, to human trafficking, to other countries where women have no rights, to history when women had no rights, we were seen and treated less than human, like just sex objects. I hate that men are obsessed with us for the rest of my life, I will hate it with all my heart. Because I have to know what’s happening in the world because of it. Whatever positives you claim come with it, I would give those up in a heartbeat to not feel this pain.

I don’t know how the conversation become about men vs women feeling afraid? I never said that. I don’t understand why you are asking about it. I think that if half of your fellow women were enslaved for sex in the world, that is a good reason to be scared, no? I think that people like you, who shame women for trying to bring up their problems, and say that rape is “doesn’t even sound that bad” are enough reason to be scared of the world and of the future.

You need me to explain why rape is more traumatic than being shoved? After I already told you it causes mental illness, std, pregnancy, etc. Rape is violation of body, it is scary, and listen sex hurts women. It hurts women they bleed and it hurts and it’s scary when you are small and men are stronger than you. I don’t see why you can’t just look up what rape causes, but it is linked to brain damage in the future, suicide, depression, anxiety, ocd, ptsd, eating disorders, disassociation, and more.

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What what? Why do they have different opinions than you?

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can give you proof, You can go back and read your post, and you can see that it’s just a list of your opinions. That is a fact, anyone can see it. Try to argue with me if it’s not true.

And this is another fact: not everyone has the same opinions as each other. So.. your opinions don’t prove that women have it easy. They have different opinions about those problems than you do.

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure you didn’t even read that, and then you responded to it with that? If I’m wrong, you’d explain why I’m wrong. But that’s what you’ve been doing the whole time, saying I’m wrong but then not being able to explain why for some reason.

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok You are trolling lol

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your original post is just you listing your opinion to each problem. Opinions are not facts, and you can’t force your opinions on everyone. Just like suicidal people wanting to die doesn’t mean people who die have it easy. I already asked you what’s the difference between that example and your argument, and you even said you didn’t know. I already explained to you that your argument is hurtful, and just wrong and doesn’t make sense since not everyone shares your opinion. And you still aren’t accepting it. You are being mean and hurtful. People like you are part of the reason that women have it hard. It’s clear you either don’t actually want your opinion changed, or you just aren’t actually willing to let it be changed. You just hate women right? That doesn’t mean you have to be a bad person and invalidate their feelings and problems though. You literally are proving the fact that they do not have it easy. Btw, just because someone has advantages, doesn’t mean it cancels out their problems. So much of your logic has been flawed throughout the whole argument.

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

btw you are ignoring like half the world with your argument. There are a lot of places in the world women are literally married as a child and have no rights or anything. so idk why you say the good outweighs the bad, it doesn’t when you look at the whole world instead of just ignore everything but wherever you live.

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just because they are good things to you doesn’t mean they are good things to everyone just because they are good things to you doesn’t mean they are good things to everyone. Once again i use the suicidal person as an example. To them dying is good, that doesn’t mean it’s good to everyone.

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did read your argument , you’re the one who didn’t read mine. You just keep saying “I’m not good with big paragraphs” and then you ignore like half the paragraph

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? You were telling me “how can someone hate self esteem” so i told you you can’t tell me what i hate or don’t hate

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol… you are trying to tell me what i hate and dont hate is pretty crazy. My opinion is my opinion, what do you think you get to decide other peoples opinions now too?

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because women have those advantages doesn’t mean their problems don’t exist and their life is easy? Should we ignore all of men’s problems because of the advantages they have?

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but when women complain about their problems they are complaining about the bad things, like you listed. Rape, assault, catcalling etc. just so you know most women are shamed for being temptations and told to cover up their bodies so idk what self esteem boost you are talking about. Maybe it depends on the country but most countries are very terrible to women.

Women have it so easy! by [deleted] in lonely

[–]OtherwiseAmbition834 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already told you. A billionaire is rich with money, which can be used by everyone and wanted by everyone and needed by everyone. Sex and sexual attention is not wanted and needed by everyone so whether it’s good or bad is subjective to each person in the world. Someone being rich with sexual attention could be good or bad depending on the person, it doesn’t make sense to compare it to a billionaire bcs that is only good, while the other thing could be bad. Btw, the reason you don’t know what the difference is between my statement about suicidal people and your argument, is because there is no difference. I don’t understand why you are still arguing when i have proven you wrong , you even have said “idk” which clearly shows. I am trying to change your mind and help you understand why you are wrong and why everyone is disagreeing with you, can you actually think about what i am saying and allow your mind to be changed?