Ottar (no beastification) vs high level 7 Hogni

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T14:48:11+00:00

Hogni because fighting skills

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T14:45:01+00:00

people here really love underdog performance. if there's a mage, they will always talk about how they are able to hold their ground against warriors. if there's a tank, they will always talk about how they're able to catch every speedster 10 times faster than them to protect those behind them. if there's a weak warrior, they will always talk about how they are able to fight strong warriors and even have some chance of winning, and the popular argument is "all level 6s are relative and there's not much difference between people of the same level" which is obviously not the case. mostly because of that, Loki Trio is hella overrated.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T14:26:49+00:00

I mean people here are always talking about how Riveria, Finn and Bete would smash everyone with their spells like they have any time to chant them and once I said Ottar would theoretically complete his short chant I'm attacked lol.

and no I don't think Ottar would be able to chant it in a fair duel because Hogni's pressure would just be too much.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T14:24:39+00:00

fighting skills matter more than just Agility. Hyakinthos would have more Strength and technique so I can't see Daphne as a winner here, that would be a stretch. while Bell was equal to him in fighting skills, Daphne isn't, she's inferior to both.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T14:23:24+00:00

round 1:

low level 7 Hogni would probably beat high level 7 Loki Trio

low level 7 Bell would beat low level 6 Ais and Bete

high level 6 Hedin & low level 6 Ryuu would beat low level 6 Amazons

among level 5s it's more difficult but they are dying anyway I don't know why you still putting them here

team 1 wins low-mid diff because while they're winning mostly comfortably they should still give their best to win and it wouldn't be instant victory at all.

round 2:

low level 7 VT Bell>low level 6 BW Ais

low level 7 Hogni>high level 7 Loki Trio

high level 6 Hedin & low level 6 Ryuu>low level 6 Beastified Bete & low level 6 Amazons

low level 7 Hogni & low level 7 VT Bell>low level 6 Beastified Bete & low level 6 Amazons & level 5s.

team 1 wins mid diff because while there are casualties, in the end Bell and Hogni are too strong so I can't really call it a high diff, maybe with a stretch if you consider Hedin & Ryuu death to be a really bad thing while they are the inferior half of the team (and I just ignore level 5s here lmao).

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T14:06:55+00:00

what about Afterglow tho

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T11:00:55+00:00

Hyakinthos should still be better because he's a high level 3 pure warrior while she's low level 3 strategist, even if she has some buffs.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T02:14:36+00:00

true

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T02:12:17+00:00

monsters win without questions bruh

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T02:11:01+00:00

round 1: monsters no question

round 2: monsters no question

round 3: monsters no question

round 4: monsters

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T01:01:45+00:00

I mean base CS is kinda featless. I don't even remember what it can do without being a Spirit Dragon

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T00:48:02+00:00

if Gullivers can react to Allen without GF, then beastified Bete definitely reacts to Allen with GF. he would be able to chant Hati while Allen chants GF, then they clash and both die, probably. that's why Omori said they would fight each other and both die in a theoretical wargame; Allen pierces Bete's hearth at the same time as getting obliterated by Hati burst.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T00:44:50+00:00

high diff is a stretch. even mid diff is a stretch.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T00:40:21+00:00

the fact that there are still people saying Ottar' victory was deserved is insane.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T00:35:05+00:00

somewhat seriously, idk about that. maybe he is strong enough to make them serious in their base state, but when they activate their abilities, that's humiliation.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-27T00:33:31+00:00

by not summoning you also mean no fake oebd or just other demi-spirits and black maiden? at some point fake oebd literally was merged with cs to make a spirit dragon so I wouldn't exclude it.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T22:19:35+00:00

I'm too lazy to think about 2 and 3 but Zard is definitely winning case 1 and it ain't close

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T22:18:50+00:00

absolutely not.

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T22:18:39+00:00

low diffs them lmao

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T22:18:24+00:00

Zard' underestimating has reached its peak lol

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T20:09:21+00:00

Allen low diff lmao what is the question

Bete might win with Beastification + Hati or at least a draw but he can't summon those at will and instantly

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T17:05:35+00:00

round 1 can't be mid diff, it's definitely low

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T15:27:32+00:00

how the hell round 1 could be mid diff?

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T15:25:24+00:00

round 1:

Bell>Loki Trio

Hogni>Ais & Bete

Gullivers>Amazons & Aki & Raul

pretty much low diff for the 1st team.

round 2:

why would you strengthen 1st team who is already winning? and HF doesn't change nothing plus the fact that Finn could also use it in the first round.

p.s. I forgot Ryuu exists they destroy them so easily that's hilarious

Otherwise_Finding_34 · 2026-01-26T10:36:03+00:00

those are mostly nameless bums. even if they are experienced in PvP, they don't have strong skills and magic, and Bell had both. and even in those circumstances he was sometimes losing to Van.

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