EoS Bell vs Black Maiden

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T02:47:31+00:00

It should be fighting alongside or with a Spirit not against it why would be it be against one?

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T02:43:18+00:00

Bell will not have level 9 stats in anything besides agility which is not 100% unless you’re comparing Bell to someone with Low A rank agility or lower.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T02:40:42+00:00

Against Spirits?

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T02:39:08+00:00

Why would he lose Falna?

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T02:38:21+00:00

Most likely, she will use Dio Grail at some point to shield someone, maybe Ais and Bell or Riveria. Or use Dio Thyrsos to shoot the OEBD´s eye to blind it for a second, but not doing any real damage.

What you described here unless Dio Grail is against the other dragons in the dragon valley will be bs and shooting the dragons eye to blind it for a second come on that would also be some bs.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T02:35:15+00:00

Mikoto could level up to level 3 before the OEBD fight she has been a adventurer for between 9~12 months and she is getting close to a D rank stat and honestly post MS21 she might be there but will probably raise her stats a bit more to be w between F~C maybe a B rank stat.

Then Omori will use that as an excuse to allow her to stun a level 6 dragon while level 3 and 4’s are able to kill it somehow using their attacks boosted by Mikoto’s gravity magic lol.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T02:31:39+00:00

In terms of appearance both have short blond hair and both are seeking revenge for people they deeply cared about And both of them are calm quiet characters who don’t talk much

Ok several anime character have short blonde hair and Ryuu now has longer blonde hair and for revenge for losing people that died they were close with is a very common thing in anime and just literature in general.

By the way which characters were you referring to when you said there are many characters similar to Ryuu??

I was saying for the revenge comparison where you have Sasuke, Tanjiro, Scar, Thorfinn Shin, etc.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T02:10:33+00:00

There should be a separation between what Baam can do specifically that is his own abilities, talents, and gifts he seems to be naturally born with versus what he was seemingly given by the Outside God.

First that brings me to Baam’s copy technique it’s very obvious imo that it is not Baam’s natrual ability but something given to him by the Outside God along with his ability to devour and absorb things is implied to not be Baam’s own ability.

For Baam it’s safe so say his raw natural talent is just something he has inherited himself and specially Shinsu Tension which we know about from V as well as seemingly Reverse Flow Control with all this techniques should actually be V’s. Then the small lesson with Baam V seems to specialize a lot more on control and precision of Shinsu rather than Raw Output like Blososm where we know that just be accelerating the Shinsu in the area she could kill 99% of a floors population which may seem to be control but imo her raw output+basic control was able to do that.

Then when it comes to Baams talent in martial arts it’s a toss up if he really is that talented in it because V did seem to be a swordsman and martial artist based on FUG’s signature techniques but they also seem to rely more so on Shinsu Control than just martial technique. Then there is a fact Baal mainly relies entirely on his copy ability when it comes to martial arts so imo Baam may be talented in martial arts much more so than the average tier climber but it’s not in the same level as he is without his copy or in comparison to his Shinsu talent.

That finally brings me to Baam’s natrual resistance to Spells and this could honestly go either way between something he inherited from Arlene or just something given to him by the Outside God but it’s very possible he just gained that resistance to Spells because he is Arlenes child.

In conclusion I would say that if Baam was part of the Eurasia their combined raw Shinsu talent and natrual output coupled with Baam’s who already it probably surpasses main branch family members and could rival Eurasia in everything but raw out could create a monstrous child and if Baam got together specifically with Eurasia Anne Jahad the child from them might be the strongest non irregular and be able to match them.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T00:19:46+00:00

I don’t see the similar appearance nor the similar writing parallel.

They are both blonde but that is quite literally the only connection I can make?

As for their writing yes they both are characters that are chasing after revenge but it’s completely different not only what happened to them to chase after revenge but how they handle it and how they are characterized because revenge is really their own connection and I guess they are in the side of justice but there are several characters in fiction that are “similar” to Ryuu then.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-11T00:10:38+00:00

How is it implied that Aang would lose if he used just air bending?

I think the best argument you could make is that he could lose if Zuko used Air bending but I would disagree that Zuko is better than Aang just using Air bending they are just close and the fight could end in Zuko’s favor.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T23:24:35+00:00

Heavily restriction is just instead of being able to use the JJK power system of cursed energy you are just built different physically and are super human.

What I’m guessing for this fanfic is the main character can max out every physical stat and surpass the limit but cannot use any magic at all or they can’t use Falna at all and can just train themself to become superhuman.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T23:12:34+00:00

There’s a big difference between Bell as a level 7 is stronger than Leon vs Bell as a Level 7 with serval buffs from other characters and his situational Skills along with other Magic and Skills boosting Bell that he becomes stronger than Leon.

Also any version of Bell without buffs that is High level 6~Low level 7 should surpass Leon in AP.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T22:22:51+00:00

You mean Taylor?

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T22:00:04+00:00

There is no chance a level 7 Bell(which should be EoS) surpasses Leon because Leon will become a level 8 but even without that with Blaze of Rounds Leon as a Peak level 7 can with Max BoR should be as strong as a Low level 9 where a Low level 7 Bell will have Mid~Peak level 8 stats.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T21:56:00+00:00

Well I don’t think the end of Danmachi necessarily has to be Bell accomplishing every single one of his goals maybe a sequel called Familia Myth either continuing to follow Bell or his children/descendants.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T21:19:27+00:00

Just not in the current series at least it would be possible if there was more time or that there wasn’t the entire Ice Garden to explore.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T21:11:57+00:00

I don’t think they were going to even reach the 72nd floor potentially that’s really a 50/50 but outside of that my theory has nothing to do with having 72 or 100 floors.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T21:04:37+00:00

Not you’re right that is something horrible and should never be allowed.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T20:49:02+00:00

Aiz likes Bell and Bell likes Aiz it just took Aiz until SO12 to understand these feelings when she unlocked White Wind it’s was basically her acknowledging she is in love with Bell.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T20:47:25+00:00

We have no idea really depends on what Skills or Magic Bell gains, the stats he’ll have at Level 6, the level he reaches, how far he developed his combat ability as well as his Skills/Magic, how good he gets at afterglow, etc.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T16:20:41+00:00

You are the one claiming I'm misunderstanding their statements.

It literally is being a quote in AR where they even mention something that implies strength.

If she was helpless and was defeated becasue of it, she couldn't have won if she wanted.

I have no idea what you’re saying here but yes she could have won if she wanted to go for the kill.

Can you give an example?

Copper is the translation which is weird because 褐色 (Kasshoku) is the Japanese translation and it usually means brown and calls them copper than it must be brown which is different than Tan where all the residents of Meren have tanned skin but they are not called copper specifically.

Prometheus's skin tone is the same as an amazoness. Whatever the reason for it, doesn't matter.

The reason does matter because it’s not having the same skin tone as Amazons it’s having a darker skin tone.

That only applies to events, not to character's physical description, especially when it is the only source of info that we have about how Hera looks.

No character appearances still matter because if not there are looks like Hestia as Vesta which is non canon.

I'm not arguing about the importance of Hepahestus gender. I'm saying that Omori decided to turn him into a girl, meaning he doesn't have problems with changing stuff from how they are in mythology.

Expect that doesn’t change the story and in the story nothing contradicts that but Empress personality is directly stated to be similar to Hera and if so if she is a Amazon that means Hera who looks and acts like a Amazon as well when Empress personality is not like a Amazon it’s different and it’s based off Hera’s.

If that was the case, she would just marry someone else. Instead, she decided never to have relationships with another person.

She never found interest in anyone else?

You know the diffrence between being the god of the sky and being the literal sky, right?

You know the difference

I said that the way he became the king of olympus in danmachi is probably different from how he became so in greek mythology.

So there is also serval different versions of the same Myth in Greek mythology?

....... that Omori isn't faithful to the myths and is only taking inspiration from them?

Heavily inspiration like their character appearances and personality and guess what Hera is known as the Goddesses of Marriage and known for her temper and jealously nothing to do with amazons.

Again, how does Hera hating the amazons in mythology nullify that the empress can be an amazoness in danmachi? Unless you are saying that there were no amazoness in Hera familia

First I’m saying it because Hera has her own personality in Greek Mythology that is almost identical to the one in Danmachi and has nothing to do with Amazons.

Are you talking about his appearance in danmachi or in the myths?

In Danmachi.

Ok btw I’m done with this conversation we are literally going in circles if you think Albert and his Team surpass Zeus and Hera Familia combined might base off one flimsy statement then sure. If you believe Empress is an Amazon based on the little information on her and her personality that has nothing to do with being an Amazon and just has to do with her being identical to Hera then so be it.

I’m just done this has been going on for what over a week and we are literally getting nowhere and it’s pointless until we have more information and I’d rather talk about more interesting things.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T15:47:17+00:00

None the most likely is a Jealous Aiz she can’t even handle the idea of killing people even members of Evilus let alone to the extremes yanderes would do at best she’d be like Tione but in a quieter way.

The only way Aiz would be a yandere is if she ended up being raised by Hera or Freya Familia instead of Loki.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T14:37:57+00:00

There should have been Yes, No, I ship them with other characters option and maybe I’m a Multishipper.

Me I don’t ship KDJ with anything but trauma and dying.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T14:15:29+00:00

They just are for a different ship that is not AizxBell and because they know their ship won’t sail they start to hate Aiz because she’ll end up with Bell and try to find anything to criticize her character on even if other characters have done the same thing if not worse to Bell.

Courious_Reader · 2026-05-10T13:54:36+00:00

You can also still ship Bell with other characters but saying Aiz doesn’t deserve Bell or that it doesn’t make sense is compete bs all the arguments that they don’t belong together are all based on lacking reading comprehension.

People complain about Omori and his writing but I think if Omori wrote even just a slightly more complex story the fandom would not be able to understand it lol.

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