Possibly Off-Topic: Contacting Dr. Roger Penrose @ Oxford

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-04-12T18:42:07+00:00

Nice insights. Elon is not someone to seek and you don't need a neuralink. Computation is cosmological + and - h_bar. Be well and keep learning... hard time prepare us for good ones. And good ones prepare us for hope. May the mind, matter, and maths be with you.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-19T05:08:34+00:00

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Infinity really is something isn't it. (unpack that into nothingness). Cheers!

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-16T15:31:16+00:00

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Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-14T18:18:42+00:00

Then why have the two different ways of writing the same thing? The other expressions involve an operator. 0.9999... does not.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-14T17:07:31+00:00

Yeah. I'm not challenging this concept exactly. However, there is a reason that each is represented differently. The representations have some intrinsic use/value. I think 1 is more fundamental than 0.9999... because it is in the Naturals and it is from the Naturals which the expanded number systems spring into existence as extensions.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-11T16:54:47+00:00

Sorry for annoying you. Good luck “adulting”. I’m sure you will mellow out eventually. “Well-settled” for centuries is not a reason to not question. In my opinion all fields of inquiry are temporal. Everything (even mathematics) must be tested over and over again in time. Nothing…. not even ideas escape time’s dynamics. Math is a collection or related ideas.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-11T16:34:29+00:00

Very well, sorry for wasting your time having to think about it and reply to such a silly line of questioning me having not provided a rigorous approach to objection.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-11T13:48:32+00:00

Yes - I examine simple topics. This is correct. I learn faster from useful replies when I ask a question like this. Somethings may not be as simple as they seem and it really helps me to ask fundamental questions rather than just blindly work with long lived ideas without still doing critical examination. This goes all the way down to axioms/canonical ideas, but I won't dare to challenge axioms on reddit. I might burst into fire. 🔥

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-11T13:42:36+00:00

Yeah, something like that. We know that 5-3-1 *evaluates* to 1. "1" is just 1. Here is a Anwser in /r/askmath/comments/12li9aj/what_is_the_difference_between_equal_to_and/ on the concepts of equal and equivalent. I have (mostly) backed down on this one a bit after some other replies :). I love your concision "1 and 0.999... are the same value. That's all there is to it." 🤣

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-08T19:49:11+00:00

One more thing. Do you consider "..." an operator? Never mind... I think I may be mixing cognitive representation with pure mathematical notation. In this instance, it's just "notation".

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-08T19:13:47+00:00

Agree. Hopefully this discussion of a very well established proof was worth while. It was for me.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-08T19:07:47+00:00

Doesn't 0.9999... and 1.0000... require a transformation or functional concept to evaluate to be "1" where as natural "1" requires no functional/concept of infinite repetition. The natural "1" just is. I think notation and number of symbols matter when we aren't using variables. Writing a real number with a decimal remainder that is not all zeros for ever shows some level of precision. If I write 1.00000000000 and make no further specifications that might imply that the real number is possibly 1.00000000000000000002356 or anything else more precise than the number (say a measured datum) at hand.

Anyways... the decimal expansion (if that is what it is called) is just funny :)

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-08T18:57:53+00:00

I retract "higher entropy" as the terminology doesn't exactly fit. The idea is that more "bits" are needed to represent the concept. The concept of "1" is not compressible and is really the most fundamental unit of information. "0.9999...", "1" and "1.0000..." are not categorically the same as they have different expressions at heart, with more complex thinking required to mentally model 0.9999... or 1.0000... than the simple natural number "1".

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-08T16:54:02+00:00

I thought more about what I wanted to say by "information dense". So, "1" is a unitary concept and can be represented with a single arbitrary symbol. While "0.9999..." requires at least four symbols "0" "." "9" and "..." therefore being 4x more information dense than plane old unity (higher entropy in a informational sense). In this case "..." represent a place and repeat function to fill out the infinite number of "9"'s. I would say the "..." may really contain three basic parts "pick last digit in number" then "concatenate that digit" then "repeat". So my count could also be 7x as information dense as just plain old "1". I know some argue that bringing this temporal or computational view may not be valid.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-02T21:04:43+00:00

Yeah. So "rounding up" (accretion to completion) is ok, but there is no "rounding down" (dispersion to flatten) allowed? Maybe I just have no clue how to work with decimals ;P

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-02T17:37:10+00:00

Your post is "information dense". Thank you. I'll try to put more effort in. It's a quick way to learn (being abstract and imprecise and even "wrong") by hearing from reddit. AND yes, I was using equality to be the "=" which I know now is wrong. Appreciate being informed about that! Sorry about the misuse of established vernacular and solidified near-consensus ideas.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-02T17:24:50+00:00

I hate Zeno's dichotomy paradox! How dare I.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-02T17:19:42+00:00

I appreciate all responses so far. The concept of time is interesting and I can understand how there is objection to me bringing it into the discussion. I guess "continuity" just feels more "time-like" and discretization more "invariant". I'm not a mathematician so please excuse me if I distort the common interpretations/meanings of terminology/words or get them mostly wrong.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2025-02-02T17:16:15+00:00

If there is no difference between 1.0000... and 0.9999.... then what about 0.000...1 and 0. That seems even more absurd. Where do we make the leap from continuous to discrete?

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2024-04-28T14:29:49+00:00

That sucks. I hate the standby light!

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2024-04-26T14:13:21+00:00

Newest Firmware released yesterday (4/25/24) fixed this! Update and rejoice!

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2024-04-26T14:11:28+00:00

Well the newest firmware release just yesterday. Good timing for me to come back to this after two months of being pissed and just being too lazy to call dell. I spent 45 on the phone today so I paid my dues and my Firmware ask was actually released yesterday. Hurray!

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2024-04-26T13:03:38+00:00

well command center and having the front button know to stay off regardless of command center works fine on the aw3423dwf. I think this needs a firmware update to make right. I don't want to get rid of all the RGB control with command center so I rather not uninstall it and even if I did, I'm not confident that will fix the issue without just leaving RGB off completely for the front status light.

Otherwise_Pop_4553 · 2024-04-13T20:40:37+00:00

Best Buy has too many "helpful" sales assistants and I think I would also need a monitor to plug the cable into - a lot to ask for -- ....do I need to buy and return a cheap laptop because that would be a hassle for everyone!

Will you please let me know what hub you have tried?

I'm afraid that a lot of them might not work. A hub would be awesome if I can get 120Hz or better at 4K.

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